Back at you, SOE - Page 31

quasigenx · 03-21-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Caswydian

SOE changes aspects of the game all the time. Were monks using Peel prior to the nerf exploiting? Was using multiple monks to peel-lock Pawbuster an exploit? Was burning down Pawbuster rather than using the grate to kill him an exploit?

None of those issues were fixed in an emergency hotfix, bringing the servers down during normal play hours. They waited until the next GU.

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Originally Posted by Caswydian

How can we claim Aeralik was doing anything wrong when the terms we use are so ambiguous to begin with?

You are the only one who thinks the term exploit is ambiguous in this context. Next thing, you're be arguing about what the definition of the word "is" is.

Kesselia · 03-21-2008, 04:05 PM

Hey Faabio pulled a "Coyote"....roflmao

Now will Cas pull a "Bill Clinton"...

/goes to pop more popcorn, grab a soda and reaffix her tin foil hat...

Blackgate · 03-21-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Caswydian

If I got bitten, I wouldn't make any assumptions about what bit me without first gathering what evidence I could. If the evidence were inconclusive, I wouldn't say a dog bit me simply because I don't like dogs.

You talk like you are blind you cunt. If you got bit by something like a fucking pig, what else would you need other than your eyes to realize it? Gather evidence? You must think you are Sherlock Holmes or some bullshit like that

I hope you get cancer and take ten years to die you idiot.

Ily · 03-21-2008, 04:06 PM

Haha @ Pants for coming here all riled up, hostile, defensive and ready to fight but getting nothing but love in return.
=)

<3 U Pants!

Selkee · 03-21-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Conquer

People are saying that they admire Pantz for stepping forward and talking about this, that this is all the dev's fault and SoN was just a pawn. It took two people to make this happen, the dev and the GL who allowed it. If someone tells you it's ok to rob a bank, would you do it? The only message I'm seeing here is that they can do bad things and as long as they own up to it, it's ok. Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission? Pantz technically never said he was sorry, just that he didn't want to involve his guildmates. This is not someone to respect here folks.

You're seriously comparing robbing a bank to leashing an encounter in a game? At least Pantz came forward, who from NPU has done that? Besides Pantz and his guild isn't the main issue here, you want to rant on that go make a RaR.

LFG · 03-21-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Caswydian

If I got bitten, I wouldn't make any assumptions about what bit me without first gathering what evidence I could. If the evidence were inconclusive, I wouldn't say a dog bit me simply because I don't like dogs.

And this is the difference between you and apparently every other user of this site.

We all know a pig when we see it.

Odii · 03-21-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Caswydian

If I got bitten, I wouldn't make any assumptions about what bit me without first gathering what evidence I could. If the evidence were inconclusive, I wouldn't say a dog bit me simply because I don't like dogs.

WTF are you even fucking talking about?

You are retarded.

Fact.

Con-motherfucking-firmed.

Flaming Homo · 03-21-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Niber

Shortly after Aeralik blackballed the site I went on a mission to discover if corruption was limited to Zoltaroth. I logged into Aeralik's account and took screen shots. There were more, including a follow up that said, "We better move quick, Roger is patching it soon."

Please, sir, may we see that PM?

Darammer · 03-21-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Conquer

People are saying that they admire Pantz for stepping forward and talking about this, that this is all the dev's fault and SoN was just a pawn. It took two people to make this happen, the dev and the GL who allowed it. If someone tells you it's ok to rob a bank, would you do it? The only message I'm seeing here is that they can do bad things and as long as they own up to it, it's ok. Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission? Pantz technically never said he was sorry, just that he didn't want to involve his guildmates. This is not someone to respect here folks.

The difference is HUGE.

Pantz cheated at a video game, and then came forward and accepted sole blame.

Aeralik didn't just cheat at a game, he violated the business ethics of his job for personal gain.

The two aren't even comparable. Coming forward and apologizing when you're not required to takes balls, and generally results in forgiveness.

On an unrelated note, LFG, I've come up with the wording for your rules amendment:
"Effective Immediately all Private Messages will be inspected by Niber and LFG to ensure that they are kept Private"

I help. It's what I do.

docpaulpur · 03-21-2008, 04:11 PM

Caswydian - please convince me that you haven't been bribed by some SoE employee to defend them blindly.

i WON'T take screenshots as evidence - they can be photoshopped
i WON't take IP info - can be counterfeited
i WON'T take messed up rhetorics - my rhetorics professor down the street can do better
30 posts from yourself won't be enough to convince me - i need at least 250 detailed poests, each with at least 15.000 words , with wikia qutoes and real mail attached so i can get convinced

Also i want a poll with at least 98 % voters in your favour to prove me that you are a real person and not /autoreplying bot with premade sentences that read " but we need proof first " or "how do you know what soe really intended" or some other generic self-gratifying bullshit.