Flaming Homo

Thank you for that. I didn't know about encyclopedia dramatica. I've been laughing hard for the past 20 minutes. Need to take a break and catch my breath. Funniest shit I've read in a long time.

Vainamoinen

Grats on the zing, but if you missed his point I'd reckon he has the upperhand in this battle of wits.

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Thundolfe

hahaha ED is the best <3

kuraan

You haven't had anything to contribute other than empty rhetoric for about two pages now, Vain.

Like I said on the official boards:

I do have a problem with these things, and all you've got to contribute to discussion is platitudes.

Flaming Homo

Wow! And it's animated!

Tobias Fünke

rofl

Vainamoinen

Congrats on the Official Forums post! I didn't see anywhere in this thread, however, that mentioned we were to only address your problems with the game and not express any other concerns.

The other amusing bit is how people selectively read certain posts. I guess it helps villianize or chastise certain people, but it also serves to show just how polarized many of the readers are. I mean, many of the best statements supporting this crusade are steeped in platitude. My "platitudes" are only as empty as you want to fool yourself into thinking.

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Faabio

Bitch stole my pink scrolling and blinking title

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kuraan

Your grasp of the concept of sarcasm doesn't really lend any strength to your argument, and it's not winning you any respect from me. You haven't referred to any concern relating to this discussion in the last two pages, preferring instead to employ empty rhetoric to devalue our collective concerns about a developer abusing his position for his own personal gain.

There is validity to your point that LFG and Niber have also misused their powers as admins to acquire the information that has us in a frenzy, however, the revelation of Aeralik's actions has the potential to benefit all players of this game.

Unfortunately, all of this hinges on SOE deciding to not follow their own precedent of downplaying, or outright ignoring, any wrongdoing on their part.

Your rhetoric serves no purpose other than to draw attention away from the focus of this conversation, and the fact that you have nothing else of value to contribute.

Thank you for reminding us that LFG is a bad, bad man too. Is there anything else regarding Aeralik and LFG's behavior that you'd like to get off your chest?

Misiri

Exactly.

Some of us DO live in a reality where a game of fictional characters doesn't mean more than principles. We live in a world where principles, whether in a video game, golf league, school or business actually mean something.

That Aeralik and his guild choose to abandon those principles to achieve success in such a game [read game with a derisive conotation as implied by the quoted poster] is therefore simply pathetic and disgusting. That they choose to do so for the *honor* of claiming server or WW bragging rights over people who compete fairly goes beyond pathetic and disgusting.

Witness that Lord Pantz comes here deriding the progress of another Blackburrow guild, after posting here that he did indeed receive said communication from his SoE employee guildmate and that he--and by later admission his GL, Mateo--approved using this exploit to further their guild's in-game progression. A guild--regardless of how skilled or talented it's members are--that uses inside information and exploits to suceed has little room to deride the efforts of those who at least make the effort on their own merit.

How is this any different than playing in a golf league where someone cheats to win the club trophy? People work hard and compete fairly in a test of their skills to earn those honors, which are diminished by those who unfairly steal the glory instead. Such people are justifiably universally despised and held in contempt by their peers. These people aided and abetted by these unscrupulous Devs steal earned glory [however trivial in-game glory might be] from those who have actually earned it.

Tell me about principles, please. Tell me how principled the actions of Aerilik and his guild are, or those of other guilds who have utilized an unfair advantage provided by SoE employees?

LFG and Niber's actions, while hardly commendable, do not even compare to the actions of Aeralik and his cronies. While revenge for the injustices done to them by SoE may have motivated their decision to release this information, it doesn't in any way negate the the far, far greater crime done by Aeralik or other corrupt SoE developers, nor does it excuse the guilds who knowingly profited by what they knew to be illicit knowledge.