Cuz

My money is someone at SOE mentioning subscriptions not taking a noticeable dive, so who cares.

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Manratten

This is the thing...

I will allow that some of SoE's employee's are in some way corrupt. Go ahead and presume it as an axiom.

A quick look for a definition of corruption gives:
lack of integrity or honesty (especially susceptibility to bribery); use of a position of trust for dishonest gain

That is a definition I winged off the internet, feel free to use whatever one you want, but most will look pretty close to that regardless.

LFG is every bit as bad, and he somehow is gaining many peoples gratitude and support, and I can't understand it. He has flat out shown that he is not to be trusted with any kind of information, because he will make use of it for his own personal gain. He didn't go rooting through the PM's prior to having his fansite status revoked....he did it after. He even threatened SoE with more unless they agreed to his extortion like demands. (The first post of this thread..it is still there, feel free to take a gander)

While I understand some people are upset at SoE and some/all of it's employees, I can't understand the free pass and encouragement given to LFG for his blantant lack of integrity. LFG is wearing the same pig disguise that many of you have made reference to, and it is somewhat humorous that the same people seem not to notice he is wallowing in their midst.

Cuz

I'd give him my personal house address with complete confidence that he wouldn't reveal it to anyone.

EDIT: I'm curious. If LFG had uncovered PMs that were very real and serious plans from Flame members to inflict bodily harm upon another member of the site, would you question his integrity for having alerted the police?

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LFG

I'm not sure - I've never gone into anyone's account (except a couple times when they gave me their PW with permission to check out or fix something) or looked at anyone's PMs. I prefer not to answer hypothetical questions.

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Sqee

I do believe it was Nibber who did the snooping =)

Bigguss

Did you not see the part where I said I loved it?

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Misanthrope

if youre looking for integrity, youre not gonna find it in a fucking video game...

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Manratten

Interesting question Cuz.

Question from Cuz:

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I'm curious. If LFG had uncovered PMs that were very real and serious plans from Flame members to inflict bodily harm upon another member of the site, would you question his integrity for having alerted the police?

First...let's put this in perspective. There wasn't any harm being threatened, this was some guild in an instance that had no effect whatsoever on anyone else. I mean, let's assume a finger snap occurred and they all had their mythicals the next instant...no big deal in the scheme of things. Also, it wasn't the police he alerted. He posted it on his own website. This is more akin to a tabloid electing to take pictures of the murder being committed, and then printing it the next day. They didn't notify the authorities, they did nothing except make use of the information. This was not some selfless act of good, this was a totally selfish act for personal gain.

Now, that said, I'll answer the question in the spirit I believe you are intending. The answer can only be...Of course I wouldn't have a problem. Physical harm represents a much bigger breach of personal rights than internet privacy.

However, keep in mind....there are actual wishes of death against another member IN THIS THREAD. Now, I don't find them very credible, personally, and I doubt LFG or anyone else does either. (It would be up for the poster of such wishes to let us know if they were just joshing, I suppose) However, I'll note no public..."Quit wishing your fellows dead" mentions have been made to the people, at least, not publicly. My presumption is, there hasn't been a private reprimand, either. I'm not saying LFG should be on the lookout for that kind of thing, what I'm saying is, from what I can see, he isn't.

Cuz

Track LFG's posts, you'll see he has very openly asked people to refraim from using Flames as a stageing ground for real physical altercations.

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Daractoom

Who cares? certainly not Sony Online Entertainment, for all the years ive played this game SoE have not once shown any real interest in the wishes of their customers, nor made any real game developments based on real community interaction, most of the changes seem to made to the whims of dev players or the vocal few who guild or interact within the game with these "hidden" devs.

Certain classes have been virtually left to rot with Sony hoping that the player numbers in these class groups drop so low that their voices can be easily ignored, content has been left broken for long periods of time such as the total inbalance of loot tiers and the utter joke of end game set armour. Now we have SoE staff abusing the transfer system, SoE dev's giving puppet poster guilds strats to encounters because maybe they wanted someone to beat it on live to prove it wasnt broken.

Sony Online Entertainment act in this business with what only can be described as a "Microsoft Syndrome". That they can do what they want, on what ever timescale they want and customers mean very little to them, unlike Microsoft EQ2 isn't a virtual monopoly or even close to being the biggest player in the market. So next time SoE screw this game up for you, or treat you with total contempt as a customer just cancel your account and go else where, hopefully enough people will leave to convince SoE to do a SWG rework and perminately kill the game.