Gage

I'm not pissed at EL, I feel sorry for EL.

You guys are so fucking sucky that instead of trying to beat encounters legit you go out of your way to find the gimpiest, most weaksauce way to win.

That must be just a shitty feeling. To be in such a shitty guild that you spend more time trying to find exploits than just doing it legit.

Nervagent

Just like this guy...Why is he so angry:smiley-very-happy:

Nervagent

may I use that, thats pretty catchy

Anarke

No, and I can't believe you actually believe that. 17 seconds? Get real.

Yea it was like 3am when I typed that response and I didn't even think about the overflow damage. I just remember thinking 28k damage? Who the fuck cares about 28k damage. Good catch, my mistake.

As far as don't back out when people are calling me out. I'm not backing out of anything, I was *not* in the raid during this matron kill. Therefore anyone calling me out about it really doesn't have a clue.

I believe you are referring to the Hurricanus pull when your own member, Nera, intentionally broke mez on one of the drakota multiple times causing EL to wipe over and over. There is no other reason a fight would take 13 minutes against Hurricanus.

To say we used the illusionist reflect bug on our first matron kill is just retarded. We had an illusionist there because i co-made our strategy and raid setup (no not charming, don't be dumb) and an illusionist was very much wanted. As far as our first matron kill, yes it was legit. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Once again, Matron was *not* killed in 17 seconds. Don't believe everything you hear. As for the 3 princes just don't even bring that up DH brought that upon themselves. Actually I can still say I'm the best dps on the server because I wasn't in the raid during the kill ahah!

If you knew what you were talking about you'd know that I didn't lie about anything. Next time don't call me a liar unless you got some fucking proof, understood? I already said the 28k hit was an oversight by me as I had forgotten about overflow damage.

Dude what the fuck is up with DH members posting ignorant shit w/ no proof? The only time we ever cut Matron short would be due to not having the needed classes or due to another contested spawning. No one in EL even knew about the charm tactic until the day of the kill as far as I know, and now we were leaving so you wouldn't get our tactic? Get real.

Once again, don't call me a fucking liar unless you got proof. My word means a lot to me so you better step up your fucking game if you want to go down that road. If you go back to my original post you'll notice I didn't lie about a fucking thing. I chose not to bring up details of the reported *exploit* considering I wasn't there during the kill and it wasn't my place to comment on it. Nice fucking try though.

Are you fucking stupid? I'm pwned because I had an oversight about overflow damage at 3 in the morning, then admitted my mistake? If you want to see go pwned go back a few pages and check out where I *pwned* Daniya and Larrs multiple times for just generally being dumbasses. I still have yet to see anyone come at with me with a good flame other people actually respond to other then your own guild members and the occasional troll.

Like I said, go back a few pages. Then you can see what a real owning is. Btw why haven't you posted again Larrs? Was me topping seven consecutive MO parses too much for you? Of course if people asked you then you'd say I was never at the top of the parse, right?

Do you travel in fucking packs or what? You aren't even worth an answer so just read my previous response. But um....all this from an assassin who is barely even able to break 1k dps zonewide? If at all? I'm sorry Ralazar, but this is the Varsity team, the middle school team is down the street.


PS. Just to clear up any confusion. I was *not* present during the kill of matron. EL *has* killed Matron legitimately. I am *not* defending EL's actions. Go ahead and ask Crabbok what I said to him. I told him that I believed we were exploiting and that I had a right mind to leave. So did I stay and rejoice as we killed her and we all had our share of the loot? Nope, I was AFK in the Mystic Lake tunnel watching Tito Ortiz beat the hell out of Ken Shamrock again while EL killed the Matron with the now infamous charming tactic.

Dystrax

WHY WOULD THEY FIX IT IF IT WAS THE INTENDED STRAT LIKE CRABBOK CLAIMS?!?!?!

Ishbu

Crabbok - Lets see here, where to start.

First off, as someone else linked, the EULA we all agree to says we wont take advantage of unintended benefits. That is not my definition, it is SOE's and what you did is in clear violation. PERIOD.

Secondly, the princse always get brought up and it shows how fucking ignorant you are. Not only has this been posted 100x so you obviously lack the ability to read, but how it was never an exploit. Here is exactly what happened. We are beating the princes encounter, for the first time ever, anywhere. With one prince left alive and below 20% life the entire encounter reset on us. We /bugged it and proceded to engage again. When we were down to one prince left, and it was almost dead, the encounter reset on us again! Again we re-engaged and this time we killed the encounter, it did not respawn, we simply took our loot and went home. I hit the Call to Qeynos button and went and made a post on the SOE boards saying the reset needs to be fixed and how it reset on us multiple times. I PM'd several devs and email'ed a few. That was the end of it I thought....

It turns out, the next day the princes were alive again. Weird, but if a contested spawns, we're supposed to kill it, so we did. To our amazement the encounter respawned almost instantly after dieing. At this point we petitioned for a GM to come watch. Yes, we petitioned a GM to come watch and verify the bug as well as attest to the fact that we did nothing to cause this problem. It was verified and like 3 days later the encounter was world killed. I did get replies to my PM's and emails saying what we did was the 100% correct way to handle the situation and they thanked us for doing the right thing. They went on to say, when I inquired into it further that killing them when they respawned was just fine because it was through no fault of our own that the mobs respawned and if we did not kill them, someone else would have. There was no bug or exploit we took advantage of us, we simply killed the mobs legitimately as they spawned. The devs admit it was fine, so trying to say thats a skeleton is laughable at best and makes you sound stupid.

And finally, the relic farming. Yeah, nobody can relic farm, that was obviously something they put a stop to immediately. Oh wait, I see pick up raids doing that multiple times EVERYDAY. SOE made it so you dont get a success lockout until you kill a named. We never managed to kill a name. We only got the failure lockout. This was back before they standarized lockouts and at that point in time the failure happened to be no lockout.

So Crabbok, got anything else that was in no way, shape, or form an exploit that you want to try and bring up to avert attention to the multiple things your guild has done? If you do, try and be at least half way smart about it unlike Kalidon because if you try and throw his absolutely assinine dreams about things that never took place your going to look like a real idiot.

Bottom line, you used an unintended mechanic to kill this encounter. It was clearly unintended and has already been fixed internaly, if not hotfixed externaly already. Once again EL is the laughing stock of the raid community. Its a good thing you guys are in beta though because if you didnt have over a month to practice the raid content ahead of normal guilds I am sure I would have to listen to your bitching about how the encounters are too hard if you cant zerg them while using a charmed pet that knocks off large percents of the mobs hp after another guild has killed 2/3 of the mobs in the encounter.

Defending this pathetic, against the rules, bullshit is just plain sad. People in EL need to grow some balls and stand up next time Kalidon wants to do some stupid shit like this. But alas, I guess they are all a bunch of pussies who will jump off a bridge if Kalidon told them to because they have no free thought of their own.

EDIT - Fumtik, read account of events regarding the princes. Notice developers say we did the right thing. Notice your guild got suspended for 3 days. .....

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Dystrax

God your guild is fucked up.

Ishbu

Anarke, if that whole AFK thing is true, why not just leave the guild? Dont you think that there are other people like you who think all this exploiting and stupid crap is wrong? Dont you think you could take a bunch of them, maybe some of the good players from other guilds on your server and make a new guild that doesnt do such things?

It really isnt that hard, its fun, and most importantly it would give you great credibility. Maybe eveyone is just waiting for someone to take that first step. Afterall, you guys are pigeonholed onto that server and I would bet quite a few people think its either Kalidon's sad way or no way at all.

I just dont understand why you would even subject yourself to the ridicule your getting when you did the honorable thing and bowed out. Shit, Crabbok too ends up taking a lot of the fire because he's the one sitting here defending Kalidon's stupid ass over and over, to the point where to try and even save any of Kalidon's dignity he ends up getting called retarded by guild members of EL. You 2 should form a new guild and take anyone with any shred of dignity from EL with you.

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"We are looking into ways to reduce the feeling that you must always be pressing a button to contribute to the group or raid" - Aeralik, aka Chris Kozak.

"So standing around doing nothing makes you a better player and for a more satisfying game experience you dumb fucking idiot?" - Me

daniya

actually no anarke. i'm not talking about that hurricanus pull. i'm obviously talking about one you were not at. This past week in fact was the 13 minute hurricanus fight.

You need to check your own sources. But the good part is that so far I find that your information is crap anyways, and its more amusing to see you guys get torn apart by the community at large. You come across as more of a, "I know I am but what are you?", kind of person. rofl.

And larrs hasn't posted in the last few hours because he's active military and they are a little preoccupied atm, by the plane crash. Wow dont you ever check your sources. lol

Malachani

Just to humor you, I decided to go back to your original post. Forgive me for changing your precious (ugly) orange color, but I wanted to highlight where your post is not exactly TRUTHFUL. Forgive me if I didn't say you weren't being truthful and instead said you lied. Omitting the truth is just as much lying as telling a fib.

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