Pudaan

I think the void that story is talking about isnt the same void as we enter in eq2. One is complete nonexistence. The void in EQ2 seems different from the one described, the giant portal in the obelisk zones is like a black hole, it is sucking everything in the void into nonexistence but as you can see by the zones there is crap already floating around.

People get banished to the void, anashti, theer etc. Like a plane but not really a plane, no god created it, its just there.

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Zykdous

that sounds just like the void the nameless is from. no god created it, it's just there.. it's complete non-existence. The Nameless was tired of the nonexistence, so he went out to find an anomoly, to find the flow of time.

tearec

The Void as we know it in EQ2 is an actual place, a plane of existence, or non-existence. We can go to it, we can see the creatures that live in it. Etc. It exists in a form with which we can interact and affect.

The void in which The Nameless existed before finding that little pocket of time was simply nothingness. It's not a place that anyone other than The Nameless can comprehend, let alone visit.

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Zykdous

it just sounds like everyone's repeating themselves. But where is the lore at, ing ame references or offical website, that suggests they're two completely different places?

Steelbadger

I don't believe it is stated explicitly but the Lore refers to the beginning of the Universe with "all that existed was Void". Not The Void, the "The" in this instance is important and seems to identify the two concepts as different.

Even when one considers The Void and the Nameless' void in terms of distinguishing features one is forced to conclude that they are different. The void at the beginning of the Universe is "Empty of all, whether it be time or space" while The Void of the Shadowed men and Theer very obviously possesses spacial dimensions though admittedly Time appears to be greatly warped from "real world" time (as can be seen at the end of the sig quest with the Ethernauts still alive and fighting).

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Pudaan

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Gaealiege

void (void)
adj.
1. Containing no matter; empty.
2. Not occupied; unfilled.
3. Completely lacking; devoid: void of understanding. See Synonyms at empty.
4. Ineffective; useless.
5. Having no legal force or validity; null: a contract rendered void.
6. Games Lacking cards of a particular suit in a dealt hand.
n.
1.
a. An empty space.
b. A vacuum.
2. An open space or a break in continuity; a gap.
3. A feeling or state of emptiness, loneliness, or loss.
4. Games Absence of cards of a particular suit in a dealt hand: a void in hearts.

The description, simply using English, of the space which The Nameless occupied (void) appears to refer to the noun definition 1. a. and b.

The Nameless existed before existence. Substance then did not exist. The Void implies a specific location, a title as it were. A dimensional plane full of paradox and incongruity, but HAVING substance, hence the shadowmen and other void entities.

Using the logic that The Nameless came before everything, then shadowmen and other void entities would not exist within "void" without The Nameless creating them.

The Void is explained as a place where certain entities within the cosmology of Norrath do in fact exist, hence....NOT A FUCKING VOID.

So one would assume that void and The Void, are distinct, one being a state of emptiness (nothing existed until The Nameless created it) and the other being a location.

Much like Lucan's Mount within the Commonlands is not actually Lucan's actual mount (horse, throne, or a mountain as it is a small plateau of sorts).

headbusta

LMAO.

gungo

The Void in eq2 is pocket between the planes of existance and nothing. It is the place where something becomes nothing.

It is compared to a black hole where everything is drawn to its center and simply ceast to exists. The Void is a place, but nothing was created within the void. Even the shadowmen are not originally from the void. In some ways the shadowmen are the good guys. attempting to stop the Gods (both light and dark) from exerting thier control over mortals.

Vonbek

we actually dont know what happens to matter falling into a balck hole...mathematics breaks down at that singularity...diffrent dimension one of the 11 or so...who knows lol...ok back to your lore...question if they are ending the void story line how do they wrap it up...i mean the nagafen story line is still open and well mayong keeps poping up...any new kool big boys left out there...and who is this munzok guy that pwns ww guilds...whats his deal...?>????