Crowd Controlling?

Flaeme · 12-25-2007, 10:36 AM

What the bloody hell is up with it?

The only thing that seems to work reliably anymore are mezzes and I think roots. Every so often, when I hit a stun, stifle or daze (yes, on mobs that are not immune to them) it just does fuck all. It lands, the timer starts counting as if it had landed, no icon appears and the mob continues beating on whoever it is beating on, or when soloing heroics, comes twatting me for 5k or so.

Did SoE mess up, are mobs immune to these things like that Chelsith reward item that gives 2% chance to resist stuns or is some proc item messing it all up? I'm getting pretty fed up with randomly dieing because some stun decided to land but not do anything.

Anyone?

bobz69 · 12-25-2007, 10:46 AM

meh, stun works for me if they arent immune, but all it does is stop them from meleeing. Every mob in eq2 is stifle immune, cant say how many times ive stifled something and then watched it nuke me lol. stupid game

TANGARTH · 12-25-2007, 08:45 PM

I had the same probs leveling, stun a mob that was up close, no immune message either, and he still will throw at you until you back up.

Anduri · 12-26-2007, 01:44 PM

Yup, noticed this as well. Tried playing around with equipment and stuff but it still seems to happen seemingly at random.

Chloestar · 12-26-2007, 06:30 PM

I have noticed it aswell a few times mezzes and roots are fine but everything just seems to be ignored and im not getting any immune messages either.

Flaeme · 12-27-2007, 10:13 AM

I'd like to add that the power drain part does land, just not the stun/stifle. Same for the damage part on the daze.

Zebsen · 12-27-2007, 12:39 PM

I had mentioned this in another thread.

After experimenting with this quite a bit, here are my thoughts.

Some mobs are stun immune. This doesn't concern these mobs. This is on mobs that are stunnable (most of the time).

When you cast stun (I use foresake will the level 69 version at master I), here are the options:

1. Resisted outright. No biggie - it happens. Short stun recast timer because of the resist. No chance of procs due to resist. No stun icon appears in sustained window.
2. Both stun + power drain land. When it's not resisted outright, this occurs about 95% of the time in my estimation. Long recast timer because it landed. Chance of procs because it lands. Stun icon appears in sustained window.
3. Power drain lands, but stun does not. Long recast timer because part of it lands. Chance of procs because part of it lands. This is the problem, and happens about 5% of the non-outright-resist time in my estimation. No stun icon appears in sustained window.

Because of how the timer resets and procs go off, my belief is that all (or at least certain) mobs have about a 5% chance to resist stuns. The spell appears to work normally other than the lack of actual stun.

Also, if you use stun following mez, if option #3 occurs above, it only breaks mez if a proc goes off. The power drain by itself doesn't break mez.

If they have to make mobs 5% immune to stun, just increase their resistance to stun spells by 5%. At least that way, the spell refreshes faster. My thoughts anyway.

Zebsen

asumer1 · 12-27-2007, 02:53 PM

SOE does this shit to prevent Illy's from being able to fucking kill any solo mob...doesn't it piss you off when you attempt to solo a mob after sneaking around with daydream and being a pimp at ur class.....just to have the fucking mob NUKE while its mezz'd/stun'd/stifled /sad panda

Zebsen · 12-27-2007, 03:09 PM

It is still very possible to solo heroics, but it takes longer and costs more to mend for periodic untimely stun immunity...

bobz69 · 12-28-2007, 04:24 AM

that unglued amulet is beast for heals while soloing, i also just stick to DD's and debuffs (for rprocs) when soloing, sometimes ill root it stack SS/gamma/brainclut stack adornment on myself run up stun it and melee it then cancel dots but, then agian ive never noticed stun nto work so.....this could have soemthignt o do with me hardly playign outside of raid times since the heroic content is so lame