Illus v. Coercer - Further Explaination - Page 5

Firesys · 01-28-2008, 04:45 PM

I would love to, when I get home from work I'll drop one here and I'll tell you exactly that mob and I WOULD LOVE to see you show a higher number.

acessin · 01-29-2008, 06:35 PM

Just waiting on this parce.

Cenarius · 01-30-2008, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dailon

Ive read the thread and i think there is one little difference in illu and coercers mezzes.
illusionist can use both single mezzes while running and coercer can mezz while he is mezzed.

Some mobs are tougher to illu cos they are mezzing you. (e.g. 3 shadowmens in Nek3 or wisps in Unrest)

And to the coercers DPS: One of our dps specced coercer was in mage group. I buffed him crossraid Tandem, he had troub and wizzy in group and he owned all but wizzy and assassin with dps about 3,5-3,8k on single mobs. There must be something wrong with my spell order or sommit, because im hitting that high with pet in that group.

i did 3k dmg with truba as buffer alone in thuuga on trash mobs, rok fits coercer very well but... zw parsers an illu will always be in front of you or he/she should /quit. Reducing reuse timer from our reactives would be a little change to get closer in zw but i don't believe a really good coercer can outparse a really good illu zw.

Ps: @ retard pls.. dont ever use "power drain" again or even cataclysim mind

Slips · 01-31-2008, 12:48 AM

Yeah 3 days later, no parse from the coercer. I think I did around 3k in Pawbuster and 3.2 in Tomb of Thuuga tonight with around 40k raidwide.

Ijai · 01-31-2008, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firesys

I would love to, when I get home from work I'll drop one here and I'll tell you exactly that mob and I WOULD LOVE to see you show a higher number.

/puts a bet that he posts the Impaler fight in MC

Daimyo · 02-05-2008, 07:05 AM

With the release of ROK I have fallen back in love with my coecer, ok not really but at least there are some decent pets now! which help balance the playing fields with illusionists imo.. and helps you solo a lot..

cizx · 02-07-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobz69

first of all, playing any class isnt hard

Guess what, we both mana flow and push buttons.

Illys are simply better rounded

All quoted for truth. Coercers just don't seem to fit in as well as illusionists.

JackAll · 02-08-2008, 09:25 AM

Well with the 50% nerf of ALL charmed pets I think its safe to say that illusionists are the kings of soloing too.

I hope it lasts.

Cenarius · 02-08-2008, 09:50 AM

with the 50% nerf..

illusionist in raid > coercer in raid

and now

illusionist solo > coercer solo

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illusionist won..

Daimyo · 02-26-2008, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cenarius

with the 50% nerf..

illusionist in raid > coercer in raid

and now

illusionist solo > coercer solo

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illusionist won..

Better hate transfer (esp. with mythical), coersive healing, +16% crit heals (grp) and channel will always guarantee a spot in the MT grp for the coercer.

Ofcourse power regen will always be a problem. Sure a scout (most of them) can use mental breach poison to regen but they severaly reduce their dps. Faster power-flow is also a benefit

The other 3 grps should have an illy in though...

That is the state of coercers in raids tbh..