The agro issue

Ithile · 11-25-2008, 05:36 AM

With the new expansion we have seen som major increase in our DPS. With this my old frind Mr. Agro have become even more even more anoying.

I normaly play with ither a Zerker and a Guard. When i dont have a dirge or a troub + moderate i pull agro off the guard in AOE fights, and off the zerker in singel target fights.

I know some of you will say that i need to get better tanks, but these are my guild raid tanks, with t2 armor or better. Both have been playing since the I was wearing diapers, so i dont realy think i can do much there.

I dont have my mythical, but have pretty decent pre VP gear.

So my questing is this - Should i listen to people who tells me to stop playing at beeing a wizard, and thus decrease my dps down allongside the other buff clases, or is there some other trick in the book to keep doing what i do good, and stop dieing all over the place.

I am looking for somthing that that I can change in my playstyle, not the usual exogenous factors, like get a troub/pally/assasin/swash/.....

I have 145 AA and am speced agi/wiz + tc/ia/illuminate + POM.

/yours
Ithila

Illu of Fabulae Marrii on BB

Deannan · 11-25-2008, 09:21 AM

I would say that if you are pulling aggro and dying to it then it's time to change something. If you're not dying then what's the problem?

My belief is that aggro management is everyone's responsibility. Not just the tanks. Have you gotten the TSO mage endline aa yet? That's a nice aggro reducing aa to get.

With all of the aggro changes in TSO combined with all of the harsh AOE's from the raid mobs I'm thinking of dropping my STR enchanter line for the AGI 4 heal crit, 8 deaggro buff. At least for the first bit until I gain gear to help me survive the aoes.

Pinski · 11-25-2008, 10:00 AM

Get better hate gain for the tank, and better de-aggro for you?

Banditman · 11-25-2008, 02:52 PM

Sounds like tank issue. I have WWoM and I never have aggro issues.

Ithile · 11-26-2008, 08:45 AM

@Deannan
I have the Mage line done. The spell is great, and works great especialy against singel target encounters. The mobs i die on is usaly when i rip off 3 mobs in an encouter with AOE. Blink sometiem saves me on those, but its a toss up.

@Pinski
Ofc, Bards are always nice to have arround. Dirges especialy help in zerker groups.
But as I said, im looking for somthing I can do. The only option i can see right now i to start putting points into the sta line, and prospone some of the other nice stuff from the mage and enchanter lines. This ofc will take a fair bit of time, but the next expansion isent out for another year, so i gues i can wait.

Thanks for your imput guys.

On a side note, I toped the parse in PR last night, 5.5k isent half bad with the gear i got :-)

Pinski · 11-26-2008, 09:29 AM

There's nothing you can do except do less DPS if you're pulling aggro or get a bunch of de-aggro procing gear.

Lubitup · 11-26-2008, 05:28 PM

With the changes they made to Guardians.. DPS..
You have to adapt.
If you are looking for something you can do..
Cast less...
Use Prismatic and UB.
If that steals aggro..
Just use UB.

But you need to build the group around your tank/healer..

If your tank cannot keep aggro you need some hate xfer.

From my exp the Befuddle gear sucks and does nothing.

Mazrim · 11-26-2008, 08:40 PM

One deaggro proc item suggestion to try out:

\aITEM -2104576808 -1738081162:Edict of the Whispered Word\/a

Does a pretty good job in my experience.

Arisi · 11-26-2008, 09:03 PM

I steal agro a lot.. All I have to say is if you dont want to stop dps or die... Dispersion gear ftw! I tanked nexona for 45 seconds in dispersion and a bunch of random trash mobs every now and then. Very nice to have on hand for agro whores.

Tiermes · 11-27-2008, 12:30 PM

No idea on wtf getting aggro is cause my dps sucks (Ive never spiked over 12k or so at >20 sec trash) unlike my tank so unless some nasty CC on tankl, aggro is fine. Get a better tank.