Lubitup

All is fair in love and war..

Or is it just war and gnomes ?

parisian stank

seems like a lot of concern about this, but seriously, they can't make it much worse than it already is. 90% of tanks couldn't tank their way out of a moist paper bag, the other 10% can do all right but 2% of that is about to lose amends and about to learn the fact that they are a bunch of sorry shits who haven't a clue about how to tank. but judging from the most of the shard gear, the developers don't seem to give two shits about illusionists, so maybe it will get worse, who knows... yes, i've been a victum of too many PUG's.

LightCC

Since the average PUG is lucky to have a dirge, coercer, or even swashy or assassin.... what do you judge this on?

The basis of this update is to remove the hate transfers for the most part and give a bunch of increased hate to the tanks. So your average PUG should have a much more solid tank on the aggro side...

Of course if they sucked at pulling, couldn't take hits before the update, etc., that won't change in the least... You might have to make sure your PUG tanks are properly using defensive to tank after the change though

parisian stank

i base it on the fact the i only zw about 6k right now in a raid, so in groups with no troub or wizard its only about 2 to 4k, yet i can steal hate quickly usually, without trying. thus my point is it couldn't get much worse on that front. i'm hoping this fix helps myself but worse case scenario isn't goona be much of a difference now, many groups i have to resrict myself to hitting just 3 or 4 spells, making sure to avoid ae's and ho's. seems rediculous to me when an assassin can parse 7k+ and not steal it from the same tank. i know the dynamics of it all, just pisses me off.