Max DPS - Maximimizing Raid DPS for an Illusionist - Page 6

Shandreya · 06-27-2008, 09:59 AM

Ohnoes, angry furies in the Illusionist forum!

Ebarel · 06-30-2008, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by Pinski

I've changed my order a lot since then. Chronosiphoning is out as it's wasted now

i am a bit confused on this statement, so do you really dont use Chronosiphoning any more?

and in the later spell list from Isodali Chronosiphoning is back in - so which one is to be preferred?

Zormik · 06-30-2008, 01:02 PM

are you capped or not capped on spell haste, that's what you should ask yourself and voila, you answered your own question

Ebarel · 06-30-2008, 02:32 PM

ok, it is easier to understand when you read it

So the AA specs noted here are probably also out of date as if you dont use chronosiphoning any more everything more than 4 points is a waste obviously.
is there any actual optimized spec? Sll i found here is 4+ in it

Redlance71 · 06-30-2008, 06:06 PM

I tend to agree with Isodali's lineup overall. AA's specce slightly diff than me but I had just recently came out of that stamina spec because at this point in time healers in my group do not or should not be needing 10% extra heal off me and if someine in my grp that high on the aggro my deaggro buff off that line prob not doing much and tank's grp not doing it's job. So yeah went melle /shrug. I do agree we are support class, not just dps though. Interesting seeing different people's lineups and how it evolved over a year or so in this thread but sorry, some of you are SMOKING CRACK! Nuff said.

Zormik · 06-30-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Redlance71

I tend to agree with Isodali's lineup overall. AA's specce slightly diff than me but I had just recently came out of that stamina spec because at this point in time healers in my group do not or should not be needing 10% extra heal off me and if someine in my grp that high on the aggro my deaggro buff off that line prob not doing much and tank's grp not doing it's job. So yeah went melle /shrug. I do agree we are support class, not just dps though. Interesting seeing different people's lineups and how it evolved over a year or so in this thread but sorry, some of you are SMOKING CRACK! Nuff said.

roflmao, this made me laugh

Flipmode · 07-03-2008, 11:33 AM

Man, I was away too long. My parses have been rather asstastic if I dont say. I am following Pinski's cast order rather spot on and I cant manage to get above 5% of the total raid dps. Granted my group is not optimal but I usually Hover around 3-3.8k in a group with Me, mystic, assassin, templar, sk, dirge OT group. I am working on hitting 4k consistently but idk what I am not doing. I have no choker, and mostly adept 3s. I have every piece of decent tradeable gear and my Mythical. Im stumped.

Redlance71 · 07-03-2008, 11:34 AM

RE
"Also i tend to precast flash or illuminate, depending on what's up, precasting construct on the pull is gonna get resisted a lot.

Prismatic adornment is something i precast and try to get running on 2 people by the time the fight starts (i often don't try cause if you melee you don't have much time to start timing things, chainpulls ftw lol). It gives you a nice dpsboost .
Also not running in to melee, well what can i say, i run in on pretty much everything unless it has some nasty aoe. With dispersiongear you can survive a bit better so melee ftw."

Choker is nice in theory but have yet to use it in raid without getting chewed out for it, and the dps lost IF the Fury has to focus on healing me sorta negates the dps gained imho. I find if I do some things to boost my own dps like dont manatap, savante, manaflow etc overall dps lowers for raid particularily for my group and during long fights. And, unless I get a weird group cant justify using 3 conc for my pet but mythical is immenent so yay! You might want to relook at pris adorn, don't see any way you could really have it going on two at same time.
Interesting to see lineups including the construct limited pet. I use it, though on my lower priority on cast. We don't get dps credit for what it does last I knew but it still knocks out some respectable dps and even helps if it happens to die early.

Zormik · 07-03-2008, 11:57 AM

Get another fury seriously, a fury not wanting to heal a chokergroup is something that should get banned from any raid.

srsly...

Slips · 07-06-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Redlance71

Choker is nice in theory but have yet to use it in raid without getting chewed out for it, and the dps lost IF the Fury has to focus on healing me sorta negates the dps gained imho. I find if I do some things to boost my own dps like dont manatap, savante, manaflow etc overall dps lowers for raid particularily for my group and during long fights. And, unless I get a weird group cant justify using 3 conc for my pet but mythical is immenent so yay! You might want to relook at pris adorn, don't see any way you could really have it going on two at same time.

Yeah, that's the thing, it's not one illusionist getting dps from a choker, it (should be ) 3-4 people at least, that's 10% more dps from each person, and there's only a handful of instance fights you're going to take your choker off for. Fucking healers that get pissed off at chokers can die in a fire.

And please check your timers before you say it's impossible to have 2 adornments up at the same time, Harmonization makes adorn 16 seconds, which is longer than the recast, thus, you can cast it on two separate people.