ROK Epic - What do you want? - Page 3

TANGARTH · 07-10-2007, 03:44 PM

I don't think we can expect a ton from these really, something that involves control would be nice, like a 5-10s epic stuns that can ignore immunity effects on a large recast that also has a small/average damage proc.

some kind of useful utility

Manyak · 07-10-2007, 06:10 PM

If they decide to implement control as part of raid strategy (and i mean REALLY part of the strategy), then they can take away al our nukes for all i care, and just give us control bonuses.

If they keep our raid job as DPS buffers/nukers with just the minor control we have now, then they need to give us a weapon that increases DPS.

But to have us remain DPS / buffers and give us control effects is useless and retarded.

Spryt · 07-11-2007, 10:51 AM

Lowering our dps don't sound like much fun imo. What else is there for us to do after we done all our buffs and that? Trying to beat the wiz on the parse is half the fun. Control sounds like an interesting idea but how would that work?
I like the idea of a mez that removes all dots tho. Would be great for groups as I usually only mezz when things are going very wrong and by the time you realise its all going to hell most mobs will have loads of dots on them and getting people to cancel them mid fight is near impossible.
What about a weapon that procs some kind of group buff? Maybe a group power regen buff or something that inc casting skills or maybe something that inc casting/recov/reuse for the group?
Not sure what will actualy be possible to implement tho.

Manyak · 07-11-2007, 11:34 AM

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Lowering our dps don't sound like much fun imo. What else is there for us to do after we done all our buffs and that? Trying to beat the wiz on the parse is half the fun. Control sounds like an interesting idea but how would that work?

How the hell do you not know how control would work? If mobs hit hard enough that tanks cant tank more than one at a time, then boom you need control. If adds spawn with bad AEs that can wipe the raid, boom you need control. Theres a million different ways to implement control into raids. Hell, into the whole game.

Xanoth · 07-11-2007, 01:04 PM

I kinda wish we had more debuffs at times, even seems more logical given the class name. but i guess something that simply make the class do more what its name implies don't really add up to it being more fun or useful.

there is a lot we could have and do that is shown in other games but lacking in eq2. lul being the obvious one.

not sure if i'd like any of the above tied to a weapon though, a unique debuff or something tied with a damage proc might be nice.

Pinski · 07-11-2007, 01:56 PM

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How the hell do you not know how control would work? If mobs hit hard enough that tanks cant tank more than one at a time, then boom you need control. If adds spawn with bad AEs that can wipe the raid, boom you need control. Theres a million different ways to implement control into raids. Hell, into the whole game.

Exactly what's been needing to happen since T5. Pretty sure T5 was the last time I felt like an Enchanter in raids, even if half my time was spent rebuffing, there were at least a few fights where I mez'd.

Dreana · 07-11-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Manyak

How the hell do you not know how control would work? If mobs hit hard enough that tanks cant tank more than one at a time, then boom you need control. If adds spawn with bad AEs that can wipe the raid, boom you need control. Theres a million different ways to implement control into raids. Hell, into the whole game.

I started my illusionist back when the game first came out but quickly gave up on her because her role in a group (didn't even make it to the raid point) wasn't what I thought it should be or was used to from EQ1. I loved my Enchanter in that game! Silly me thought they would be similar.

But after playing a templar for the past couple of years, I've given her another try. I've leveled her up to 51 (yeah, I'm slow

) and was actually just looking forward to being able to do a bit of dps. I so wish they would take your recommendation though and put the need for control into the whole game. That is what we are supposed to be able to do correct? Reading your post took me back to EQ1 when cc was really needed, just about everywhere it seemed. It's been so long, I didn't realize how much I missed it. hehe

So, while it will take me much longer than most of you to get there, I really do hope it involves what we were meant to be in the first place - Crowd Control.

Spryt · 07-11-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Manyak

How the hell do you not know how control would work? If mobs hit hard enough that tanks cant tank more than one at a time, then boom you need control. If adds spawn with bad AEs that can wipe the raid, boom you need control. Theres a million different ways to implement control into raids. Hell, into the whole game.

hmm thats not what I ment. What I ment was how would improved control be implemented and how would it work? But thanks for your feedback, will keep my mouth shut from now on.

Pinski · 07-12-2007, 07:28 PM

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Bam!

Dreana · 07-12-2007, 08:30 PM

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Bam!

You're so mean!