Mephiston

ok so after the sacrificing of many many baby seals and virgins i finally looted the club, sweet.

all started well 2k, 2.2k 2.1k you get the idea, then suddenly...

209?! 890?! im suddenly not breaking 1500.......

so im like er ok, i make extra sure to time swings, i check buffs, my casting orders the same that got my previous numbers on all weapons so im puzzled.

and were talking mobs in lyceum btw, so yellow con.

because of this the overall zonewide sucked...alot.

last night we went to EH and i paid more attention to hits etc....

im missing basically 1/4 attacks or CA's. i dont need to tell u what that does to dps, and its only happening with the club, i use GBH or dragon born i hit alot more, on the trial for example i barely missed at all with the GBH, and in lyceum with the dragon born again my hit % raised.

my crushing is around 407 and i cant work out why my character cant hit anything

on one totem in EH last night i missed with all CA's and all auto attacks over a 10-12 second period.

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arturos

sounds like you need to burn some parse time and do some testing... its gonna hurt but the knowledge will be usefull... auto attack only. trash mobs in EH are good for this, just look at your combat logs see if there are more misses with the vrak club, do one mob with Vclub, one mob with next weapon so on and so forth... resist the urge to cast a spell the reason for that is just in case your timing is off... you really wanna get a good baseline ask the RL if you got a spare group that you can go into that will not buff your attack abilities.. shit if you are three grouping ask to be put into your own group by yourself... try to eliminate any variables i.e. buffs that could mess up your data. should only take 6 mobs total... look over the numbers and see.. if the vrak club misses more which btw i have always felt that my KOS hammer (sledge of smashing) misses more then my SOD hammer... yes i know im using the book on a stick but shit 800+ crit consistently...

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Grrrrrrrrl

Are you actually missing? or is your melee crit with the V club critting for the low end? To my understanding if it says 1-400 as a damage rating you have a possibility of critting for 2 or even 3?

On the other side perhaps people werent debuffing the mob enough to help you land a hit? -parry - agi etc there could be a number of factors?

was it a late night people getting sleepy and not being as aggressive with their debuffs or something? Makes me curious... I am going to get the drakeborn thing and do a test run this week and see what i come up with. <3

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pagansaint

Crits are always Max +1 at the low end for criticals.

Also I've noticed, without debuffs you notice the misses alot more with the club than a faster weapon.

Kind of like rangers do, but not quite to that extreme of a difference.

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FatheadBlah

Since hit % was brought up im curious what hit% your auto attacks are hitting for. I sit right around 70-74% the higher % is if I get a dirge. I figured with the dirge skills buff I would be hitting better that 4% more. I was looking at this during afew EH runs was curious about others hit%

Rasil

I have had Vrak for a long time now and I get a little less hit % then Handi with his GBH. I am at about 70-73 %. What it is coming down to is not your skill in crushing however, though it is always good to get it as close to cap as possible. My guess is that since you were in a gimp KoS zone that people weren't using the proper debuffs and not lowering the mobs Block, dodge, parry, defense skills. furthermore, ALOT of mobs in Lyceum are Brawlers if you didn't know so they avoid a lot more. EH also has a few mobs (totem mobs on the third floor is a good example) that are also pretty nimble and dodge a good amount, But like I said it is more then likely not having the proper defensive debuffs on the mob that is causing your DPS/Hit % to fluctuate.

Israphil

Ya, most of the mobs in LoA are brawlers, and their deflection skill is farkin huge. That's all you were experiencing.

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Mephiston

hmmm possibly however on some of them i was still getting really high and some appaling....

anyway it seems to have resolved itself now, but it just seemed incredably random for few kills.

thanks for the replies

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