onorc

nah i wasnt talking about your post, not even sure what i was talking about, wrote that at work and was in a hurry so not sure what i was reading, prolly in a different thread.

oddyophile

Here are some of the things I look for when we're testing healers:

Take them to MMIS, put them in the MT group, and tell them I'm not curing. Then I watch how long the effects stay on the tank/group. Curing is a big part of this game now, so being on top of that is important.

Watch how well they conserve power. If a healer is running out of power on trash, then they are just spamming and not thinking. If the necros and conjurors are having to constantly feed them with shards and hearts just to get through a fight, or if they keep asking for mana feeds, they've got a lot to learn.

If they aren't in my group I ask the people they are grouped with how they did (cures, heals, ae avoids, etc.). A healer's first job is to keep people in the raid and fighting, and they can tell me if they failed at that.

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Saracen

Next time you do EH. clear up to wuoshi and dont kill it that night. For the next few days you have the ultimate mob to test defensive players on. You can even test/practice jousting skills/self pot curing of scouts quite easily if you just have your MT group perma tank this mob :P

Anyone who does this is likely to sharpen their skills to the max tbh :P

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Mephiston

er you dont leave mobs up period. especially not one at the end of an instance like that, where the whole point is to get to him and kill him.

sorry guys were leaving the reason we cleared all this shit up to test out the recruits, take 5.

fuck that. ash's post is much much better.

another thing to consider is the type of healer your talking about. i wudnt want a fury busting in the same role as a templar for example. in the example given id be looking at a furys dps incombination with group survival curing etc. 0 dps zw wud b a bad thing, same with inquis. depending on your guilds level, gear etc some of the more dps grouped healers have less and less to do....

different bars for different types imo.

course survivability and curing > all but there other things to talk about with sum healers.

for a real work out, get em to tank Tact Armour, dps in EH trash and still come out with sum ok heals. well rounded players who can think outside the box > straight one role players.

arturos

damn enopia, why the micro managment approach?? You realize by doing this your gonna run the risk of offending a good healer and possibly losing them right??

Just focus on the basics, is their group complaining to you privately?? about no cures? no heals? no buffs? do you notice that the agro whore in their group dies alot??
if that is the case then all the raids healers need to be smacked upside their head for thinking that any healer can solo heal an x4's damage on a non tank toon.
while swapping them out is cute and all whats the fucking point? what healer wouldnt know to push heals in the MT group, thats just stupid.

Just remember that all healers help each other not just the MT healers. For me personally i got my assist macro and i heal thru the mob.

Good luck to you Enopia it kinda sounds like you might have just gotten a lead healer job or some kind of job where you get to baby sit the healers in the raid. Dont fix what is not broken. This is end game EOF half the guilds out there dont use wardens in the MT group any more. I have seen a trash mob heal parse where the necro came in third on the heal parse behind the MT shammy and MT templar. the rest of the healers did not need to heal....

arturos

I feel sorry for ya ash you are the only one that cures?? That has to suck. to chose between replenishing your ward or curing?? what do you do ash? Im curious to see how the shammies role on that.

oddyophile

I used to be. I had to train the other MT healers to cure by making it a competition. Halroth and Embries got pretty good at it. Dahnii puts them both to shame, though. I have to work to keep up with her. Let me rephrase that, I would have to work to keep up with her, but I'd rather continue warding and debuffing (especially now that I have the Necklace of Pain ).

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arturos

LOL ya gratz on that piece btw. a very solid neck piece agurably a tie with or just a hair behind the eye, from a healer point of view. But that power regen ability.. mmm cant have to many of those lovely items.
My wife is one of the wardens in our guild and it is a contest to see who can get that cure off the fastest. and they talk shit in group after named fights...

Ulric

I'm a MT with a healer alt, but I take the job seriously and while looking at the parse for ways to improve myself I can't help but notice some obvious things about other healers.

I look at combat duration times. It's overly simple, but I've been amazed at how many times one or more of the healers has a duration time that is significantly low. I'm usually right up there with the MTs duration because of Reverance if nothing else, but when a healers duration is 15 or 20 minutes less than mine, I scratch my head and wonder how many lasagnas they went afk to bake. Low combat durations tell me they weren't even trying to debuff. Laziness is a bad trait in any player, and I hate seeing it. We're all there to do a job, not just roll on loot.

Also playing an MT Templar, I find myself throwing out heals on other healers groups. I shouldn't have to but sometimes it's either that, or watch someone die. Look at who the healers are healing. It tells a story too.

The thing I wish for most would be an accurate parse of cures. Spending a lot of time curing can throw your heal parse to shit. Without knowing that healer was spending half their time curing, it looks like they were slacking which is the farthest thing from the truth. The parse doesn't reflect that at all.

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oddyophile

I heard a rumor of a "cure parse" a couple of months back, but no one could ever produce it for me. I'd love to have one of those.

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