Fritzzz

The OK:
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1/3 heal of heal cast proc -- This actually is kind of cool, not insane but not bad for 1 ability.

Looks Cool.

The horrible:

A)
group AOE immunity that is random -- what is the point, does not really matter what it's a immunity too, it's unpredictable, though I do agree it would be more useful if it was immunity to Stuns. What raid mobs use these stifle/daze..and even if they do it's random chance luck if it's up-- so what is the point.

B)
10 minute recast on clicky
Like the AOE immunity it's unpredictable, unclear yet on how it can be used so only sticking to facts here--- sure the actual effect itself has something lame in addition.
-- this instead should be our raid wide haste/reuse buff instead.
-- or if the clicky is indeed useful it should be on 3 minute recast.
-- otherwise u will need 4 inquisitors in every raid for it to be dependable. there are like 4 inquisitors total on my server...so thats not going to happen. Also you could not setup 3 groups to accommodate the 4 inquisitors....doubtful at least...overall horrible clicky no matter what I think because recast time makes it pointless.

C)
The high end damage.
Too low. Low end means nothing to Inquisitors. It should be 1-490 dmg.

D)
THe one "OK" item 50 percent heal proc, is outdated in T9 unless we get no heal upgrades!

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So what did I miss?

arturos

if that heal cast proc was on every heal i could understand it being considered cool.. but since it is a 50% chance.. im not so happy...

The fact that we are already looking at T9 is just how bad this game is at the moment... the weapons stats are marginal at best...the other two abilities are crap... sony will not change it i am certain of that.. if they change anything it will be to nerf the heal proc to be a 1.8 or 2.4 times per min... you watch..

Fritzzz

I'm really glad I have Staff Growth... 90 percent of Epic fights i don't need the extra heals (50 percent proc), and if I do need that 1 minute cast thing I'll use it and then switch back to Growth Staff.


T7 Gear > Mythical inquisitor epic.

Exeter

Assuming the there's no comparable upgrade to the Mythical version of the Epic weapons come T9 (Epic 2.0 or something like that) then yeah. Of course, T9 is likely at least another year and a half off if we take the time it took to go from DoF to EoF. We'll have to see. Who knows what'll be waiting for everyone then.

I don't mean to pick on anyone that's worked hard to get their Epic because that's not my intention at all, but does anyone else think the fact that a bunch of people have their Epic weapons show that it was too short a questline? Not too easy, mind you. God knows that if it were easy everyone would have one and I'm willing to guess that even in a year, 90% of people won't have their Epic. I mean just too quick.

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Hellsgard - 80 Inquisitor / 25 Provisioner

Stoic

My reasons are a bit different but still I agree the Mythical of our "epic" blows balls.

1: The Clicky effect. Penitent Protection, says it transfers 25% of the damage of all group members to the fighters in group (maybe raid too not 100% on this yet). So if there is 1 fighter in group they are gonna be getting smacked HARD. This clicky is HIGHLY situational, if your group is gonna take alot of damage when the clickie would be worthwhile instead you can't use it because you will kill the tank in the group. If you use it when people are taking very little damage its about pointless to even have. So not only can we 1 shot tanks on big ae's or what not but we can piss off the whole raid just by using it. Our Mythical can wipe the raid just by using it. If it isn't raidwide then you better have no more than 2 fighters in group and no less than 2 fighters in group otherwise its not optimal. So now raid leaders have to design our groups based on our shitty 10 minute recast clickie effect OR we can't even use it at all. WTG SOE!

2: On a successful attack we can stifle and daze immune the group for 12 seconds. WTF? Stifle and Daze on the group ??? This is worse than Amazing Reflexes. Big deal if it does damage too, give us a proc that lowers the mitigation of the mob so it increases raidwide dps or something but don't give us an ability that isn't even useful on a fucking raid! I would be hard pressed to find 5 encounters where stifle immunity or daze immunity would have saved my RAID. This effect is ONLY useful for duels. It is too random to count on, my raid leader can't depend on it, and neither can I. As much as I like heroic content, if I have the mythical it means (shock) I am a fucking RAIDER, so where does this ability factor into raiding and inquisitors?

3: 50% chance to cast a heal 2 seconds after we cast any of our direct heals. Welp at least SOE knows we never get a chance to use our reactives, the class defining healing ability. Will require some testing to find out how much this heals for, wether or not it takes power, and wether or not it has a cast bar that would otherwise interupt another casting of another spell or ability. Providing it doesn't do any of those things that ability MIGHT be alright. That is of course if it isn't bugged to all hell and casts the heal only on the caster or on your current target not the target you cast the healing before or any other random code fuck up which seems to be our lot in life. Thats also assuming the heal is actually helpful. It might just be a 200 point heal cause it doesn't actually specify.

Now my real beef with this weapon. I WILL NOT USE IT ON HEROIC CONTENT! I can't dps with it cause the damage and delay is shit, and frankly a buckler just isn't that helpful for us since we lost parry in lu 13. So we get the choice of 5% avoidance or just use a 2hander that whoops the llamas ass. I would have been more impressed with Bonecrusher being our mythical than the piece of shit we got. Not 1 thing on our Mythical enhances us as DPS buffing Healers. I thought our epic was supposed to I dunno be a representation of the class. I am all for being a healer and I like to think I do a good job of it, but for fucks sake where on there is Group wide Tenacity or Raid wide Devotion or Raid wide Act of War. Or maybe have Holy Shield be group wide with the epic instead of single target hell there are PLENTY of things they COULD have done with our epic but they choose the most stupid abilities possible.

P.S. Penitent Protection will provide me hours upon hours of fun as I kill off the OT and MT systematically by putting it up at the most opportune time for my group. Thank you SOE from one masochist to another.


Just wanted to add, that till I saw the Mythical I actually had high hopes this weapon would represent the class well. I see I was wrong, I almost done even want to upgrade it cause then people will expect me to use it when its just another 1 hander that half the abilities aren't worth using. The only abilities that actually will help on a raid is the heal crit the 125 heal bonus and the 50% chance of another heal. The other 2 abilities will become useless. Still don't understand the point of a 10 minute recast clickie that just kills fighters in your group. I remember seeing the Guardian Epic and hell just about EVERY other one and being like "wow that epic makes me want to play that class and level from 1 to 80" Will be hard pressed to find someone going "wow i want to be inquisitor cause of that super duper mythical epic they get there." I implore SOE to stop being clueless about us and listen!

Here is a link to the thread that they should have fucking at least looked at http://www.eq2flames.com/inquisitors...nqui-epic.html remember that thread SOE? Guess not cause ya completely ignored every suggestion in it.

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juzam

It was quick compared to stuff on Eq1 because everything you need is on an instance or short respawns. On eq1 you needed multiple contested epic kills. I think hard is what should matter so I don't think contested epics should be necesary again.
Anyway, back on topic, the weapon just kill my enthusiasm to play my Inq

Fritzzz

Come on man don't give them crappy ideas. 500 1.8 (with dirge?) / min is not that great,

24 * 700 * 2 = 33600 dmg extra minute.
= lols crappy.

Not all 24 people will be attacking constantly also.
(averaged for crit spells hits)

If it increased Act of War damage by like 1000 and then made it raid wide it might be decent idea. I still doubt it though


And to not end on a negative note: This is best quote ever--pretty much gets to the root of the crappiness:

Should be your Sig! 10 min recast = lols crappy also.

Alarick

It was epic alright, an epic disappointment.

Hell, even a raid/group wide Inquest would have been better than the clicky and the stifle immune proc combined.

Fritzzz

god i hope they don't change it to raid/group wide INquest...that is hella crappy too-- who has trouble with mana????

Alarick

I was trying to be sarcastic, and make that as an example of just how badly the weapon sucks :P