Templar new epic bonus will also increase the value +heal items scale with thier reactives?

Fritzzz · 06-27-2008, 09:22 PM

Wow if so, an epic that has synergy--seems templars have someone logical working for them.

Fritzzz · 07-02-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritzzz

Wow if so, an epic that has synergy--seems templars have someone logical working for them.

This was posted before the change to our clicky.

Someone logical is working for us too!

cellin · 07-03-2008, 05:42 AM

Was explained to me that the wisdom bonus would be applied as plus healing for both the templar and fury changes. also with the way it is stated that it will only apply to reactives and not their other heals makes this ability 100% retarded/useless if the templar is wearing anything better than mastercrafted. will pretty dumb/worthless if it goes in that way.

Calain · 07-03-2008, 06:21 AM

I think it will increase the base values of the spells, which would be quite useful esp. for the reactives, as it will even increase what you can add with +heal items. But until the changes are on test no one can really say how it will work out.

On the other side I will not start the "OMG THIS IS OVERPOWERED !! 11 eleven" fight some other healers started about the change of our Mythical.

cellin · 07-03-2008, 04:33 PM

to me adding to the base heal amount would be the only way that this would add anything. I just posted what i was told, but how do the other effects like this that are already in the game work, pretty sure that the mystic ability and the bonus given by the fury mythical count as plus to healing so its hard to tell unless someone who is on test server can confirm it i'm going to go with what i heard from my friend.

razieh · 07-03-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Calain

I think it will increase the base values of the spells, which would be quite useful esp. for the reactives, as it will even increase what you can add with +heal items.

This is 100% incorrect adding Base value does NOT increase the +heal cap. The only way to increase your +heal cap is with a critical cast or increasing the quality of your spell via adept III, master I.

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Originally Posted by Calain

I think it will increase the base values of the spells

Mystics have this ability on their epic and it adds +heals not base, a base increase would be way to overpowered they would never add this. Take into consideration if its 5% of your wisdom at 1000 thats a 50% base increase.

Stoic · 07-04-2008, 02:38 AM

I think your math is off just a tad Razieh, 5% of your wisdom if its at 1000 is only +50 heal, that does not equate to 50% of your base heal. Unless your using T1 heals.

I understand what you were trying to say but the values were off. And +50 to your base healing is pretty much what +heal does. All in all though unless you were getting something like 20% of your wisdom turned into +heal your not really gaining anything worthwhile from your epic. It already has +125 heal on it already. At least ours does, not entirely sure if all healer mythicals have that number.

If your mythical alone could give you +325 heal then you wouldn't need to wear as much +heal gear allowing for more powerful proccing or stronger gear in general. if your a mystic or defiler with insanely huge wards then yeah that just bumps it up all the more. Ya wanna know what our cap on reactives is? Cause my class defining heal is nearly worthless on a raid. If the raid wipes cause an Inquisitor didn't cast their reactive then you might want to take a look at your raid and not your inquisitor.

Either way mystics and defilers have had it easy street for .... ever. So I feel no sympathy if they have to deal with a couple bumps in the road. Its better than being turned over in a ditch waiting on a tow truck that ain't coming.

razieh · 07-04-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoic

I think your math is off just a tad Razieh, 5% of your wisdom if its at 1000 is only +50 heal, that does not equate to 50% of your base heal. Unless your using T1 heals.

I understand what you were trying to say but the values were off. And +50 to your base healing is pretty much what +heal does. All in all though unless you were getting something like 20% of your wisdom turned into +heal your not really gaining anything worthwhile from your epic. It already has +125 heal on it already. At least ours does, not entirely sure if all healer mythicals have that number.

If your mythical alone could give you +325 heal then you wouldn't need to wear as much +heal gear allowing for more powerful proccing or stronger gear in general. if your a mystic or defiler with insanely huge wards then yeah that just bumps it up all the more. Ya wanna know what our cap on reactives is? Cause my class defining heal is nearly worthless on a raid. If the raid wipes cause an Inquisitor didn't cast their reactive then you might want to take a look at your raid and not your inquisitor.

Either way mystics and defilers have had it easy street for .... ever. So I feel no sympathy if they have to deal with a couple bumps in the road. Its better than being turned over in a ditch waiting on a tow truck that ain't coming.

Your whole post just screams QQ I don't understand why! Increasing the base amount by 50 equates to 50% increase since we were talking about base mods(you know how % increases are suppose to increase the cap but they don't), aka my math was not wrong. I know what the cap on reactives are and I think its stupid, but you guys are already crying about some wrong information. This will not add to base heals if so paladins, mystics and furys all got screwed. Oh again just in case you didn't catch it the first time base % modifiers does not increase the cap of +heals either does adding base amount.

Where did this whole defiler mystic easy street come from? What does that have to do with anything? Thats a lot of pent up rage there bud, I was just correcting misinformation. Next time when you try to join an actual logical conversation leave your angst in the other room.

Snark · 07-04-2008, 04:00 PM

So does it act like +heals or not? If it does, don't even bother.

Calain · 07-05-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeralik

Fury gets both +heal/spell and improved base amounts. The +heal/spell is in the blue text at the top like the many of the epics recieved. Since the fury is more known for a healing and dps twist it made sense to give bonuses to both. Instead of the savage feast you then get a base modifier based on your attributes. So if you have higher int then you gain more damage to your nukes. Higher wisdom adds to your base heals.

As it is the same text for Templars, this would fulfill my assumption. Otherwise it would truly been absolutely useless.