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Old 09-24-2008, 12:35 PM  
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Some Inquisitors are definitely useless, simply because of the fact they have no clue how to play their class, and if they don't know how to play one you better put in a druid or templar or something, but if your playing with a real inquisitor you dont have to worry about that, group or raid with me and I will show you I'm no healer, im much more.
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:10 PM  
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I have no issue with chokers and I have stopped using OH completely apart from Druushk...
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:28 PM  
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Some Inquisitors are definitely useless, simply because of the fact they have no clue how to play their class, and if they don't know how to play one you better put in a druid or templar or something, but if your playing with a real inquisitor you dont have to worry about that, group or raid with me and I will show you I'm no healer, im much more.
If I was leading a raid, and you were in a group and asked even one person to take their choker off, I'd replace you in a second. I don't care how good you think you are. You would have chosen to be useless to me and the raid.
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:41 PM  
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If they take off their chokers it screws up my healin parse ~~

Choker + new Heal item from the heroic zone they just added in = 10 percent higher CA/Spell dmg from group.

10 percent times 5 people. Do I think I can outdmg that by just doing DPS alone and not healing them? -- no I don't think so because SOE has fucked our DPS since EOF. To do good DPS as inq nowadays u have to be in a perfect group and even then you can only do high 3k, maybe 4k if your real good. Where the crappies scout and mage can do 4k dps in their sleep. That's the CRAPPY ones, good ones can do 10k+. So wtf am i doing any DPS for when instead I can keep them healed and keep a 5percent dmg increase on them 100 percent of the time? SOE has Killed us as a DPS class. Why people can't see th at is beyond me. We had our time in the sun, it was EOF.

I'll stick with doing moderate dps (900-2k) and keeping the heal proc and chocker people can do the major DPS.

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Old 09-24-2008, 07:18 PM  
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were not the DPS class and shouldnt get aggravated at the lack of it. what we are great at is healing and debuffing. and we have a fair amount of useful group tools we can pull from. the only time i set up for DPS these days is when im running in duo group or solo. otherwise im specced for healing. just my 2cp Flame on
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If they take off their chokers it screws up my healin parse ~~

Choker + new Heal item from the heroic zone they just added in = 10 percent higher CA/Spell dmg from group.

10 percent times 5 people. Do I think I can outdmg that by just doing DPS alone and not healing them? -- no I don't think so because SOE has fucked our DPS since EOF. To do good DPS as inq nowadays u have to be in a perfect group and even then you can only do high 3k, maybe 4k if your real good. Where the crappies scout and mage can do 4k dps in their sleep. That's the CRAPPY ones, good ones can do 10k+. So wtf am i doing any DPS for when instead I can keep them healed and keep a 5percent dmg increase on them 100 percent of the time? SOE has Killed us as a DPS class. Why people can't see th at is beyond me. We had our time in the sun, it was EOF.

I'll stick with doing moderate dps (900-2k) and keeping the heal proc and chocker people can do the major DPS.
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pfft i go full melee in gear except my mythical star of malice and ethereal mist gloves and i can keep up any group cast my group heal once and a while its all good. 1-2k dps depending on the group

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hell sometimes i even dump the star and mythical and use my bonecrusher ( waiting for better to crap still hasnt ) usually the holy water sprinker procs off every other group heal so i just kind of alternate between that and inquisition and pop a single target heal once and a while
if you dont want people to run chokers you are hindering your raidforce from the dps it could have.. we are inquisitors first off.. thats a healer.. we get battle aa's and some decent gears we can do some dps but your group expects you to heal..

Saying Fuck the choker is like telling a necro not to lifeburn or a wizard not to manaburn or anythign that a person does to sacrifice something to do more damage.... we get to heal.. life goes on. I want everyone in my group to have one i even want on!

Its stupid to say your dps is more important then 2-5 others in your group (who parse 2 / 3 times of what you do..) not not be able to squeeze 10% more? thats just stupid.. toss on an overloaded heal item and toss up a group heal or two and watch the mobs melt away.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:59 AM  
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We'll see how opinions evolve when the group proc change goes in.
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:33 AM  
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We'll see how opinions evolve when the group proc change goes in.
Beside Druushk and Nexona nothing should change.
The only small problem will be mixed DPS groups, as 1st you wont be able to do any damage as you must stand between the melees and the mages and 2nd the heal procs of the melees will not aftect the mages and vice versa.
So you might need to wear one or two additional heal proc items for the trash. But as you can't DPS anyway, 'cause all the mages beeing out of heal range if you are meleeing, why would you wear dps gear anyway?

The mages could just move in with you for sure. This would eliminate all these problems, but most don't want to. I talked to some mages, that said, that they will loose out to much DPS due to the kicks of some mobs and that is why they are standing at max range.

Now you can decide who sucks. The Inquisitor, who wants his mages to melee (or to be at least at close range) or the mages who want to stand as far away as possible?
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:09 AM  
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most of our mages ( the ones who do the good dps) are in swinging for the extra 300-500 dps they get from it.. healing thems not an issue usually. this isnt me asking them for the sake of them being closer ( most arent in my group normally ) they do it for the dps on their own.

plus the group proc (overloaded heal im assuming you mean ) imo should be(ae) like on the cloak of woven vines(Throne room).. thats an amazing heal but has a 25m range to it.. it will still do about 15% of a healers parse because most people have to be in range for all other heals.. if it was nerfed to 10m or something just stupid.. then id be an unhappy camper.
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