Jaguarjp

I'm pretty sure I initially saw flurries proccing off of a double attack, but now that I'm specifically looking for it, I haven't seen it in a few days running. My MC is over 100% and my OA is at level 5.
Several times I've seen a crit hit, followed by 4 flurries, followed by a double attack - but every time, it stops there, even though the mob isn't yet dead. My misses are turned on, so even they would display, if it was as simple as the flurries after the DA were missing.

Anyone else notice this, recently? Thanks.

Fritzzz

if true then the more double attack you have the more worthless flurry becomes.

i.e., if you have 100 percent double attacks, then you won't ever flurry.

Jaguarjp

No, I wouldn't say that at all, because I often will flurry 1-4 times on the initial swing, and then do a double attack. I'm just not seeing more flurries off of the double attack swing. So either way, DA still helps you, even if the DA never adds any additional flurries. It doesn't look like I'm losing any flurries from the initial swing just because none are triggering off of the DA.

EQAditu

I'm fairly certain that you never could.

Every time you swing, you have one normal attack. Sometimes that normal attack may "proc" special attacks. Hence you may have a double and/or several flurry attacks afterwards. But double attacks won't proc flurries and flurries won't proc double attacks. The latter thought is in fact ludicrous. But it should tell you why the former thought is not true either. Essentially it follows the idea that, procs don't proc procs.

It in fact seems oddly impossible for you to even flurry after a double attack to give that illusion. The flurry check seems to come first in static order.

Jaguarjp

Thanks for jumping in, because you are pretty much considered an authority.
So then a double attack is coded similar to a proc from the initial attack? Because looking at it from that perspective, it definitely makes sense that a DA couldn't spawn flurries. Maybe I was mistaken when I saw it.
However, I have definitely read people's posts where they mentioned flurries off of the initial swing AND the DA.
Maybe we were all mistaken?

the_mo

im pretty certain ive seen DA-flurries before (as in: 2 "Flurry!" over a mobs head whilst we cannot dualwield), but from testing out some training dummies, that doesnt seem to happen anymore. havent read anything about that anywhere tho.

EQAditu

Back in the days of brainlessly running that Frostfell zone for AAs, I could have sworn to see enough melee spam to think that I had two separate flurries... but I just now ran my entire year's logs through something trying to find a flurry line after a double attack and it found nothing. Only the opposite.

Jaguarjp

Well, then, that would pretty much seem to prove it - no flurries from double attacks.
Thanks for taking the time to check those logs. I guess I'll have to be a tiny bit less happy with my level 63 Inquisitor, even though I'm pretty sure he's one of the only Inquisitors that low in level to have 120+ AP's, with much of the 3rd TSO row filled.

aeeron

but double attack can proc from a flurry?

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Pinski

Flurry's come before double attack in the parse, so it just looks that way. Show 2 "double attacks" coming from the same melee swing/flurry then say that flurry can proc double attack.

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