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Old 07-14-2009, 03:58 PM  
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Oh good job failing to read my post. I didn't ask for dps weapons did I? No. Guess I didn't.

I asked pretty clearly about weapons with higher top end damage (NOT dps) than the lava wrought.

But that's fine, I already searched alla, lootdb, and eq2wiki to find my own answers.
Thanks for posting a question when the answer material was at your finger tips and for not reading the posts discussing how what weapons have what damage/delay and what was found to be better.
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Old 07-14-2009, 04:16 PM  
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Critical Hit mechanics are:
  • If RNG damage roll is less than the max damage the critical hit does MaxDamage+1.
  • If RNG damage roll is more than the max damage the critical hit does X damage * 1.3 (or 1.x depending on if you have +critical hit bonus items/abilities or not).
This favors high top end weapons compared to lower top end weapons by a LARGE amount if the weapons are the same delay. If their delays are different, especially if by a wide margin it becomes a study of trial and error to determine the more beneficial weapon. Purely going for the highest top end possible ignores many aspects.

There are no tricks, gimmicks or overlooked exploits to increasing auto attack DPS.

It boils down to only eight things:
Crit Rate; Strength amount; DPS and Haste modifiers; Hit Rate; Timing to keep delayed attacks to a minimum; Double and Flurry attacks. Thats it, nothing else.

Depending on hit rate, amount of casting you need to do, and how much haste modifier you have you choose one of those three weapons. Lower hit rate and and haste will always favor a faster weapon. High haste and high hit rate will favor the weapon with the largest potential crits in some instances, but you're usually better off with the faster weapon anyways. More is just that, more.

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Old 07-14-2009, 08:57 PM  
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Thank you for elaborating. It's nice to see the details broken down. I made my post, though the information was, as you said, at my finger tips. But I dont trust myself to find everything. And I knew that a weapon with a very high damage wouldn't necessarily be considered the best t8 dps weapon, it was quite possible to be absent from the thread we mentioned.

At any rate. I'm not considering an exploit or anything, just a trick I've never seen mentioned here or elsewhere on forums. If it has any real benefit (which I can't even test quite yet cause I'm not high enough) then I'd suspect getting probably 10-20% more dps out of my character compared to what I would otherwise get.

If I had thex hammer or dogwood or some other decent weapon, my little idea starts to lose its value. Least I imgaine it would. Though with all the variables involved there is only one way to know how anything will really perform and thats to test it.

Anyway, thanks again for the break down of the whole crit calculating process, the both of you. I may have misunderstood but what I gather is that the higher the damage spread the more often you'll hit for only max dmg + 1. So having a smaller spread does certainly come into play. Which means DR is a way to consider a weapons worth. Least more so than I originally thought.

But hey, you dont know till you ask.
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