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Old 07-13-2009, 07:44 PM  
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So its been a while since I been on my inquis. But picking it back up. Anyway I'm nearing 80 now and looking at the t8 gear.

I see lots of lava wrought weapons on the broker for cheap. That will do to get started. But wondering if there are any other weapons with a higher top end dmg.

790 I think the lava wrought one is.

And yes I realize that top end dmg isn't the end all be all of our dps. I just like seeing the big numbers. And I have some ideas on increasing dps but requires a slow heavy hitter.

Anyway, what are some weapons that hit harder? Any group or quested? I can't really raid
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:58 PM  
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Thex Mallet - EQ2i, the EverQuest 2 Wiki - Quests, guides, mobs, npcs, and more this is probably your best best on non-raided weapons, the needed heritage is directly linked there.
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Old 07-13-2009, 08:53 PM  
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Thex Mallet - EQ2i, the EverQuest 2 Wiki - Quests, guides, mobs, npcs, and more this is probably your best best on non-raided weapons, the needed heritage is directly linked there.

Yea Thex Mallet is good for normal dps and has a great DR but I'm actually looking for weapons with a max damage number higher than lava wrought.

Lava wrought is 790 for it's max damage. Where Thex is only 539 so thex is a lot worse for what I'm looking for.

DR is mostly pointless to any class that can get 100% crit rate since you always hit for the max value. Any other suggestions though?
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:39 AM  
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I would only recommend lava wrought if your hit rate is high as hell. Otherwise youre gonna take a nice dps shit if you miss too much due to slow delay
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http://www.eq2flames.com/inquisitors...ing-tier8.html

Three posts down.

Wow. Try looking at the front page before posting a question please.
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http://www.eq2flames.com/inquisitors...ing-tier8.html

Three posts down.

Wow. Try looking at the front page before posting a question please.
Oh good job failing to read my post. I didn't ask for dps weapons did I? No. Guess I didn't.

I asked pretty clearly about weapons with higher top end damage (NOT dps) than the lava wrought.

But that's fine, I already searched alla, lootdb, and eq2wiki to find my own answers.
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just curious, why do you want to have just a high hitting weapon instead of DPS?

and to answer your side question, big hitting weapons have a few problems:
1) You will spike agro like CRAZY (if you DA or Flurry)
2) You will proc fewer flurries and bolts (if applicable, and this assumes the big hitting weapon is slow)

however, hit rate tends even itself out over time...






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Yea Thex Mallet is good for normal dps and has a great DR but I'm actually looking for weapons with a max damage number higher than lava wrought.

Lava wrought is 790 for it's max damage. Where Thex is only 539 so thex is a lot worse for what I'm looking for.

DR is mostly pointless to any class that can get 100% crit rate since you always hit for the max value.
This is very flawwed logic: DR still affects DPS despite what you claim here. Just because you crit 100% of the time, that doesn't completely disregard the damage spread. Not to mention, you have to look at delay...lol

If you are only looking at max hit value:
Thex: 539/5 sec = 107.8
Lava Wrought: 790/8 sec = 98.8
By your original logic Thex does perform better from a DPS standpoint.

So even though the Lava wrought hits 'harder' it hits much less often. There are a lot of factors to also consider, like the portion of crit hits that are indeed rounded up to the max non-crit-value, procs, etc.
(Even though this isn't what you are looking for I thought I'd point it out as you might seem confused on the topic)
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lava wrought will get you the highest number- non raid, Heavy Hammer of Hard Knocks dropped from the first boss in WoE comes in at 820 and while a raid zone.. this boss is stupid easy...
as others said here, we don't understand where you are coming from with this outside of your initial statement of "i like to see big numbers".
The mechanics have changed since the days of the blackscale maul.
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lava wrought will get you the highest number- non raid, Heavy Hammer of Hard Knocks dropped from the first boss in WoE comes in at 820 and while a raid zone.. this boss is stupid easy...
as others said here, we don't understand where you are coming from with this outside of your initial statement of "i like to see big numbers".
The mechanics have changed since the days of the blackscale maul.
Hey! Finally somebody answers the question I asked thanks sounds like i'll wanna hit woe. Didn't find that one on alla.

Anyway, I do appreciate you all trying to point me in the right direction as far as gaining dps. I'm not an idiot and do completely understand what your saying. And fully understand that ill get more dps out of faster weapons.

What you don't understand, because I don't plan on explaining it just yet, is that I have an idea to increase dps dramatically compared to the norm by doing things from a different perspective.

But anyway, thanks for the feedback and for actually answering my question.

On a side note, I thought a crit hit guarantees it will use the top number of the weapons dmg. Guess that wouldn't make sense though since sometimes I crit for 1k and sometimes for 2500 with the same buffs and weapon

Ps please excuse grammar. Using a blackberry.
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What you don't understand, because I don't plan on explaining it just yet, is that I have an idea to increase dps dramatically compared to the norm by doing things from a different perspective.
Not to burst your bubble, or anything, but it is very unlikely that you will find something new and previously undiscovered to dramatically increase DPS...

But anyway, thanks for the feedback and for actually answering my question.

On a side note, I thought a crit hit guarantees it will use the top number of the weapons dmg. Guess that wouldn't make sense though since sometimes I crit for 1k and sometimes for 2500 with the same buffs and weapon
Yeah, without any mods, I believe autoattack crits for an extra 30% damage, but if you hit for less than the maximum non-crit value, it is bumped up; here is an example:


Thex Mallet:
Min: 95
Max: 539

With and extra 30% those numbers go to
Min: 124
Max: 701

But, with a critical hit, you cannot ever hit for less than or equal to your Non-crit-max (539) so 124-539 gets bumped up to 540.
124-539 is a range of 415 out of the max range of 577.
415/577 = ~72% bump up
So, if you get a critical hit, (assuming 30% crit mod) you will hit for:
540 72% of the time
540-701 (with an even spread) 28% of the time
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