MOA vs AoF (Image heavy)

Muraha · 09-24-2007, 06:40 AM

Hi there,

Can anyone please tell me which of these items I should equip as a Main Tank guardian please

If you look at my stats with Amulet equipped it looks like this....

If you look at my stats with MOA equipped it looks like this....

Please note, I have AoF adorned with +10 dps. No adorn on MOA yet

Comparing the stats I see that pretty much everything worth talking about is better with AoF with significantly higher resists. The big difference, and the reason I am asking, is the melee crit. Is it worth losing all those extra resists, stats and 23 haste for the extra 2% melee crit.

I debated wearing the following cloak instead of my cloak of marr....

This would replace the missing haste and tip the odds in favour of MOA in my mind but I am wondering if losing the proc of my cloak of marr would be too much. It procs dps and str for those of you that dont know.

Can someone please advise the best use of these items? Can you also include any advice with regards to named vs trash fights. Should I wear different variations during trash clearing

My normal MT group setup is as follows

On Trash...
Guardian > Defiler > Templar > Dirge > Coercer > Swashy

On Named ....
Guardian > Defiler > Templar > Dirge > Coercer > Warden

Thank you in advance

Muraha
Holy Grail Alliance
Splitpaw
Holygrail.guildportal.com

Drakhammor · 09-25-2007, 04:20 AM

The way I see it, I would take MoA on neck (and put DPS adorn on it), and switch adorn on amulet so you can use it on your wrist (it's multi-slot, but the DPS adorn locks it to your neck).
You get the +crit from MoA, and don't lose haste from not having the amulet.
Keep in mind, I don't know which wrist items you have equipped, so I don't know if this is an option in your case.
I'd take the +crit in your neck, b/c there are very few slots where +crit is an available option, and you're lockin' out this slot for crit by having Amulet there.
Either way, stat loss is likely negligible for whichever wrist item you replace, and the adornments for wrists are pretty tank-centric, plenty of options:

+1% shield block, 67 vs. slash/crush/pierce, reactive heals on parries, blocks, or ripostes (diff adorns for each deflection type). Pick 'n choose, whichever suites best (I see alot of the +67 vs. s/c/p tho).

only downside is, you HAVE to adorn the wrist with SOMETHING to make it useable on your wrist, as you can't simply remove an adornment, to my knowledge. So, plan on keeping amulet in your neck till you get an adorn for it to make it wrist-useable.

Faxon · 09-25-2007, 04:39 AM

actually dude its 1.8% parry now in place of 1% block, they changed that in like LU 32 or some shit. but yea, thats what i do on my monk. i threw +stam (stat im lacking) on mine and wore it in wrist on my monk, then threw a DPS adorn on MoA and booya, instant best dps spec.

Titanite · 09-25-2007, 04:59 AM

There isn't much question what you should be using IMO. If you have the option and need the defense which seems unlikely you might choose to wear the Chocker of the Accuita but the MoA will do more for you in the neck slot than Amulet of the forsworn. Despite the lack of HP if you want to wear that cloak (unlikely given that you could otherwise wear the hate cloak that drops off the x2 in Mistmoore's Castle) I would think about wearing the bracelet that is the quest reward from the Somborn vampire questline. Haste is pretty easy to get really... go for proc's. crit chance and DPS upgrades. I wouldn't worry about which should go in your neck slot really.

Muraha · 09-25-2007, 05:43 AM

I am using the following items on my wrist, both adorned with 2% parry

Maybe I should just adorn and equip MOA and forget about the Amulet altogether. Thanks for the advice guys

KFizzle · 09-26-2007, 02:35 PM

i would use the AoF instead of the overlord one personally but my mains a zerk (i use the MoA when DPSing and the uh i think Labs thing otherwise), you will want that haste i'd think.

Ripzz · 09-26-2007, 04:54 PM

Yeah, Bangle of the Overlord sucks.