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03-03-2008, 05:08 PM
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Re: Cool New Crafted Stuff in GU43
I think the charm slot items rock. Does anyone know if the sage made ones are 25/25 stats as well?
I would like to see upgraded ones made from items that drop off named mobs in raid zones. Maybe give the recipes as rewards in "The Fate of Norrath" quest line...
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03-03-2008, 05:09 PM
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Re: Cool New Crafted Stuff in GU43
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Originally Posted by Ultimar
I think the charm slot items rock. Does anyone know if the sage made ones are 25/25 stats as well?
I would like to see upgraded ones made from items that drop off named mobs in raid zones. Maybe give the recipes as rewards in "The Fate of Norrath" quest line...
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Sages make Ranged Slot items, not Charmed Slot Items.
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03-03-2008, 05:26 PM
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Re: Cool New Crafted Stuff in GU43
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Originally Posted by Pinski
Probably because you are stupid. I call them like I see it. You're dumb.
If you make yourself look intelligent you won't be called dumb, but when you don't, you're called dumb, which you are. You flip-flop the issue so many times, first it's you're anti-raider, then it's you're pro-raider, then you're pro-crafter anti-raider, and so on. Your posts don't follow a systematic approach at all. There is nothing about you that makes you not stupid.
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Where have I said I am anti-raider or anti-crafter or vice versa? I don't even raid or craft anymore ffs. I did feel Gaige went to the extreme a bit and I pointed that out. I wasn't comparing T5 items to T8 items, I found it funny how the same things were being said now that were said then. Everyone thought the world was coming to an end because casuals could craft a fabled item. He went to the extreme saying this will be next and that would be next, I never seen that happen with the T5 fabled stuff, not to mention the T7 crafted fabled stuff yet either. You don't see every fucking casual player running around EFP and QH in fabled gear.
I want nothing more than for raiders to get the itemization they want WITHOUT nerfing all the other shit under it. But hey, if that makes me stupid or dumb or an AIDS infested cunt then so be it. Obviously, the approach you guys have been taking for years isn't working!!
No, I don't think that I should have the best gear in the game without raiding, never said that. No, I don't think these charm items should be nerfed. Yes, I do think that better T8 items should be put in game for raiders to fill that slot. Yes, they need to fucking fix end game itemization so you guys can finally enjoy the game and stop your bitching.
You all keep turning this into a crafter vs. raider argument (like you always do) instead of focusing on the real issue.
Maybe I need to start calling every poster stupid or dumb who disagrees with me like you do Pinski, obviously that makes you more intelligent.
Gaige, talk dirty to me some more, I like it like that. I completely agree and understand where you are coming from, I just thought you blew it a bit out of proportion, no need to be a fucking asshole about it.
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03-03-2008, 05:29 PM
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Re: Cool New Crafted Stuff in GU43
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Originally Posted by gungo
"It's overpowered because there isn't any."
Are you really that fucking stupid?
There is no raid obtained food either.
I guess provisioners are overpowered..
My god where is the raid obtained ammo....
Wtf no raid obtained poisens....
Jesus man you are whiny fucking emo bitch....
It is NOT overpowered becuase there is nothing to compare it to.
For fucks sake the charm slot was intentionally made for consumables and later just had crafted dolls.
When they finally add in more of the NEW improved charm slot itemization, then you have something to compare it too. Right now there is nothing to compare it to BUT the fucking hex dolls, the KC collection and the Chelsith heroic reward. And compared to those items it is NOT overpower.
In your small minded world every charm item ever made is overpower to T8 raid charm slots. Why? becuase it doesnt fucking exist.
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Agree. People need to chill out over crafted charm slots...LOL, the plebian masses will NOT be beating down the doors of VP due to these if thats what people are worried about..there is nothing to compare them to aside from maybe the crit slot drop from contested Mayong.
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03-03-2008, 05:30 PM
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Re: Cool New Crafted Stuff in GU43
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Originally Posted by Amataelia
Where have I said I am anti-raider or anti-crafter or vice versa? I don't even raid or craft anymore ffs. I did feel Gaige went to the extreme a bit and I pointed that out. I wasn't comparing T5 items to T8 items, I found it funny how the same things were being said now that were said then. Everyone thought the world was coming to an end because casuals could craft a fabled item. He went to the extreme saying this will be next and that would be next, I never seen that happen with the T5 fabled stuff, not to mention the T7 crafted fabled stuff yet either. You don't see every fucking casual player running around EFP and QH in fabled gear.
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T5 fabled crafted: Required raiding to get the components
T7 fabled crafted: Required raiding EH to get the components
T8 fabled (I think, according to Calthine): Requires killing heroic named to get the component.
Yes, every fucking casual in T7 wasn't running around in T7 fabled crafted gear like the RSB/Vine Wrapped Boots/WTF ever bracelet because the recipes and the components for those items dropped in RAIDS.
GDI quit comparing assholes to oranges you dumb bitch, its annoying me and I just woke up so I'm grouchy anyway.
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Originally Posted by Virulence
Agree. People need to chill out over crafted charm slots...LOL, the plebian masses will NOT be beating down the doors of VP due to these if thats what people are worried about..there is nothing to compare them to aside from maybe the crit slot drop from contested Mayong.
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Listen, I have no problem using a few non-raid items here and there as a stop gap until whatever raid dropped upgrade drops and I win it. That is fine, whatever. I have no problem with casuals having good gear (though I think the influx of amazing fabled/legendary for solo'ers is fucking retarded). My problem is when, despite being a raider, I have to actively do things outside raiding in order to upgrade my gear and be the best I can be.
Now sure, Dominodumbass posted that shit is coming for raiders, but lets see that probably means 3 fucking months from now which means the expansion will have two months left. Should I say hooray now or maybe wait till later?
FUCK. THAT. If they have time to give provisioners a recipe for the best charm items in the game (especially since the raid item dev made those items) then maybe that motherfucker should find time to toss a few charm items into some raid mobs loot table, oh I dunno, LIKE FUCKING NOW.
Solo questing for the best necklace in the game and then transmuting necklaces that drop in Veeshan's Peak off the final boss is the motherfucking lose. Seriously. It is. Trust me.
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03-03-2008, 05:36 PM
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Re: Cool New Crafted Stuff in GU43
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Originally Posted by Pinski
Sages make Ranged Slot items, not Charmed Slot Items.
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Ya, nobody can call those 2% effects overpowered either. To compare, there is a 5% legendary power reduction ranged item on the broker.
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03-03-2008, 05:37 PM
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Re: Cool New Crafted Stuff in GU43
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03-03-2008, 05:38 PM
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Re: Cool New Crafted Stuff in GU43
Comparison while I'm thinking of it:
One of the better KoS necklaces: Mark of the Awakened WTF ever: came from a raid.
One of the better (if not best) RoK necklaces: Talisman of Thuuga: comes from a SOLO quest.
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03-03-2008, 05:38 PM
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Re: Cool New Crafted Stuff in GU43
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03-03-2008, 05:51 PM
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Re: Cool New Crafted Stuff in GU43
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Originally Posted by Pinski
Raid obtained ammo is actually the best in game currently you dumbfuck. I mean are you really this stupid? As is Raid obtained drinks, and Raid obtained Poisons. OMGZ Does that mean you're fucking retarded? Yes, I thought so!
So what you're telling me is that because there is no item, it's okay that they're so damn good? Because that's what you're telling me. If there is nothing better than it, it is the best item in the game, and if said item doesn't come from raiding in some form(component or loot drop or whatever), then it is overpowered, period. I didn't say Overpowered compared to the Raid equivalent, I said overpowered in GENERAL. Your usage of how you compare items to determine overpowered is stupid. You're dumb gungo, please never talk again and go try to clear VP again.
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Your stupidity is actually quite amazing.
First off no raid obtained food is not the best. I am quit certain the new faction food is infintely better then the EH food your referring too. (2.2% dodge/parry or 50 combat/spell > Eh food)
Second crafted EH arrows are only better because arrows are broken
Third the poisen from EH is the best for some classes. The caustic AA's make the t8 ones better.
Fourth we are referring to tier 8 itemization. unless of course you somehow think 1 grouping old green trash content is still considered raiding. Likely referring to your post you do. Which makes you slightly less retarded then the kid who runs the torch during the special olympics.
And yes i am saying because there is no item to compare it too it is not overpowered. Why? This is very simple even someone like you who probably drank to much antifreeze as a child could understand. (remember just becuase it tastes sweet doesnt mean its good for you.)
THERE IS NO TIER 8 RAID CHARMS TO COMPARE THE CRAFTED TIER 8 CHARMS.
The devs already said several times now charms will be better in tier 8. They have been alloted more itemization points this tier. Charms from raids will be better and have more alloted itemization points.
I am quite certain this next line of reasoning will go over your fucking head. Yes you are that dumb. You are comparing this item to items that do NOT exist yet. You are comparing something to nothing and somehow believe Something is overpowered to nothing. That simple thought is impossible to exist becuase you can never compare something to nothing. There is NOTHING to compare it to.
Now if your reasoning is that something>nothing, which will make "nothing=nothing" balanced. Right now the only way to compare and say crafted charms is overpower to the raid obtained charms. Is for them to create raid obtained charms to compare.
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