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Old 03-06-2008, 01:27 PM  
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Raid content has NEVER broken solo and heroic content and raiders have never asked it to. But time and time again solo and heroic casuals piss on raid progression b/c they are some of the greediest and instantaneous satisfying people around.

Raiders are not fucking over your content by their itemization, but you are in fact fucking over theirs.
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Old 03-06-2008, 01:28 PM  
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Forgot to add the quote, so here it is, late:

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Thats just it see. These guys brag about how thier skills are so far superior than anyone elses, and so they deserve the best loot. Then in the same breath, they say if the non ubers have the same loot, they STILL couldnt beat avatars, cause they suck so hard.

This is true. If it wasn't you wouldn't have come to the Dirge forums the other day explaining how you suck and what you should do to get better.

The difference between you and most casuals is that they are ignorant of the fact that they suck. After reading your nonsense, though, you are in denial as well.







Awesome, just the perfect example of an elitest prick in a hardcore guild, who thinks it somehow makes him cooler.

A guy goes to his class forums, says he feels his dps could be better, and asks for suggestions, and you turn it into a personal attack.

Fuck you dickhead, sincerely.

Talking shit about my dps is a really old topic fucktard, and your like 5 threads and 100 posts late on the subject.

You wanna insult me, come up with something original, cause that topics been beat to fuckin death.
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Old 03-06-2008, 01:31 PM  
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Awesome, just the perfect example of an elitest prick in a hardcore guild, who thinks it somehow makes him cooler.

A guy goes to his class forums, says he feels his dps could be better, and asks for suggestions, and you turn it into a personal attack.

Fuck you dickhead, sincerely.

Talking shit about my dps is a really old topic fucktard, and your like 5 threads and 100 posts late on the subject.

You wanna insult me, come up with something original, cause that topics been beat to fuckin death.
A. This isn't your class forums.

B. Who the fuck are you talking to?

C. Do you hear voices?
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Old 03-06-2008, 01:35 PM  
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Awesome, just the perfect example of an elitest prick in a hardcore guild, who thinks it somehow makes him cooler.

A guy goes to his class forums, says he feels his dps could be better, and asks for suggestions, and you turn it into a personal attack.

Fuck you dickhead, sincerely.

Talking shit about my dps is a really old topic fucktard, and your like 5 threads and 100 posts late on the subject.

You wanna insult me, come up with something original, cause that topics been beat to fuckin death.
Are you fucking high? If you are i want to know what are you smoking and where to get it, because this shit must be great.
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A. This isn't your class forums. CHECK!

B. Who the fuck are you talking to? Kall, I assume

C. Do you hear voices? Yes, at times I do.
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Old 03-06-2008, 01:36 PM  
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Why does it scare these guys so deeply to have everyone be able to have the same gear as them? I think the answer is quite clear really.
Everyone does have access to the same gear. The only exception to this are people on the PvP server with their PvP sets.

As people have stated again, and again, and again in this thread: This is all about progression. More specifically, this is about item progression. For a moment, pretend items didn't have any levels on them at all. Pretend that there were just good items, and bad items. Now suppose that Poets Palace dropped better items than Chelsith. That would be kind of wonky, wouldn't it? I mean, Poets Palance is a T6 zone, and Chelsith is a T8 zone, so that is pretty funky item progression when a T6 heroic instance drops better loot that a T8 herioc instance. Why would pick-up groups and casuals go through Chelsith (other than the first time) when they could go solo Poets Palace and get better loot (ignore for the moment that Poets Palace would be grey)?

Everyone, and I mean everyone, are able to get the same gear as everyone else (unless the item no longer drops in game but that is a different matter). Choosing to limit yourself to one play style, or choosing not to experience some of the content that this game has to offer is no excuse for basically asking them to make Poets Palace have better loot than Chelsith. If SOE were to continue down a path like that, what do you think would happen to the long term health of the game?

Suppose their next expansion is for soloers and groupers only and it raised the level cap to 90. The only catch is that the loot isn't very good. It turns out all the good loot is mastercrafted, but rares don't drop from mobs anywhere and there is an incredible lack of nodes of all types in every zone. These contested nodes become camped by everyone and their grandmother trying to get those rare items. So while you run through all the heroic instances every day with your buddies, at the end of the day when you call home you get to stare at the guy with the best gear in the game, and all he had to do to get it was avoid doing quests and heroic instances and stick to camping harvest nodes all day long.

Did this analogy help you understand why people are upset that these very very easy contesteds are dropping items better than the items in VP?

This is the only time I'll suggest SOE use copy and paste. But the drops from these mobs should not be as good as drops (with out a doubt) from at least T2+, if not T1+. The only way to easily do that is to copy and paste an item from one of those zones, and then lower the stats, hp/power, resists, and effects slightly. That way the non-casual raiders will probably already have the better version of the same item. Then, just make the items no trade. This would at least make these mobs not tempting for non-casual raiders that don't have alts. Non-casual with alts will still want to kill them though.
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Awesome, just the perfect example of an elitest prick in a hardcore guild, who thinks it somehow makes him cooler.

A guy goes to his class forums, says he feels his dps could be better, and asks for suggestions, and you turn it into a personal attack.

Fuck you dickhead, sincerely.

Talking shit about my dps is a really old topic fucktard, and your like 5 threads and 100 posts late on the subject.

You wanna insult me, come up with something original, cause that topics been beat to fuckin death.
I see that as simply pointing out that if you can't even figure out how to play the class yourself how the hell are you even able to make good gear choices much less being able to determine combat requirements for said game.

I think Alesis that you are the Elitist (the self proclaim huge ego/self esteem) and somehow you are mindblown that you can figure out a video game. At this point you need to rationalize that its not your fault, its someone elses. First off its no ones fault but your own and second everyone can't be the best.
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Old 03-06-2008, 01:45 PM  
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BTW Alesis why don`t you bitch about pvp-sets being not available on pve-servers? They got FABLED tag you know....
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Been on both sides of this equation, and for the life of me, I cannot comprehend the argument that 95% of the paying population doesn't deserve good gear, maybe it's just me.

What I don't understand is the underlying feeling that those that play the game to actually enjoy it, don't deserve any good loot???
Listen, I want 90% crits on my assassin because when we're in VP i'm going to need every one of them to dps and burn shit down.
Non-raiders need this kind of gear for what reason?

Again (since still no good answer):
Raiders need raid-quality gear to advance and succeed at raiding.
Casual non-raiders need raid-quality gear to ____________?????

It's not about feeling that those that play the game "to actually enjoy it" (anyone who plays is at least enjoying it some) don't deserve good loot.
They deserve loot that is in line with their playstyle and doesn't break the fucking game for raiders.

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Old 03-06-2008, 02:20 PM  
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/snip Blah Blah words telling me how you suck.
See my above response you dumb cunt.
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