gungo

With the templar dirge i would likly loose dps/haste unless of course i have the group built around me. Furthermore the templar/dirge shouldnt put me at the proc rate cap of 2.7. Since both will only add 20% x2 increase. Oh snap son your numbers are fucked up.

to make your numbers work more i will add a mystic and illus then i will be at the proc rate cap w ancestry. Also the haste cap w illus. Futhermore i cna get illus arm and be at at around 75% double atk. In This case with the mystic mythical proc i would rather use my set bp which has 7 constant melee crit and then i can have a constant 90% melee crit (with the mystic).

Pinski

Sorry, 2.5/minute. I keep forgetting that they changed those. Anyway, so 2.5*8=20s. 20s > 18s. GG, I still win. And what haste do you lose, you have a Dirge for DPS, a templar for Haste, and a Berserker in the OT group for DPS/Haste. So, you've got 60-DPS, and 50-Haste from the group. I don't quite see the problem here. Toss in Raid-wide CoB*2 with the new 4-set, and you're getting over 100-haste all the time. Again, not seeing the problem here!

Oh, 1 last thing. Haste and procs. Nearly forgot about that, so you're really looking at 3.75/minute for auto-attack proc-rate with all the haste you have(100% causes you to get 50% more procs a minute!), combined with the 2.5/minute proc-rate off CAs. So yah, I'm pretty certain that the 8s 2.5/minute proc > 10s 1.8/minute.

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Kall

Devs, please design items based on my group setup in raids.

Sincerely,

Gungo

gungo

Dont worry i forgot about the mythical increase to aegolism for templars. Eitherway if i go into the templar offtank group I loose the inqusitor dps group which drops my dps%. If i went into the templar offtank group though i would have mystic/templar/dirge. In this case i would be better off with a constant 7melee crti from my set bp with the proc off the mystic mythical and me at a set ~75% melee crit from gear/buffs(dkmt). I would be at or near a constant 90% melee crit with the focus effect and another peice of my set toward the 4 peice set effect.

Furthemore while i said i am at the combat art cap. It is hard to truly cap. Because while the majority of my combat arts will be capped the larger hitting combat arts will still gain + combat art damage. Kidney punch, dev fist, etc will still see some gains. But at that point you will only see gains in 2-4 long recast combat arts instead of all of them.

gungo

actually no it's

Devs' Please design items intended for my class based on my class setup.

Since monks can self buff well over 100% haste and bruiser can buff CA damage over most of thier combat arts. (Oddly enough the only raid buff for +combat art damage is my own buff.) Then i expect items designed for bruiser/monks to well be based for bruiser/monks.

I hope you bought stock in kleenex with all your bitching and crying. Your keyboards must be covered in tears.

Kall

QQ more.

Bards get +300 CA and spell damage on their gear which is nearly double the amount that you get. Also, Bard CAs and spells cap more easily than your CAs do so you have no room to bitch at all about CA caps.

gungo

Am I bitchign about bard damage caps?
Nope the only one obviosuly crying here is you.
All i am saying is that if you intend to change an item so that it is an upgrade over heroic loot while not overpowered. Then design that item so that it is not superfluous becuase of caps for my class and thus becomes a tranmutable.

If you want to bitch about bard caps on your set gear there is plenty of threads in he bard forums you can do that in. You can have a circle jerk and cry about it there if you want.

edit: There is already a brawler Bp in VP that adds + combat art damage anyway. You may note that item is still considered worse then the Jarsath Gi. Hence heroic loot is still > Vp loot. While the intention of the update is to make vp items > heroic loot.

Avaela

stfu and go back to exploiting shit crushnoob

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gungo

Nope never exploited, but oddly enough many of the guilds who like to accuse me or my guild have a history of members/officers in thier repsective guilds getting suspended for exploiting.

Kall

I'm not bitching about Bard caps you fucking moron. I'm flat out telling you that your fucking Gi is overpowered and that it should be streamlined to match other items in VP from the same difficulty like Nexona's chain BP. If they make it 4% crit and 75 CA damage and it puts you over the cap, big fucking deal. IT WOULD STILL BE AN UPGRADE OVER THE SWIFTTAIL GI.