VP Loot Upgrade: An EQ2Flames Exclusive Preview!(lol) - Page 19

vcjester · 03-26-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

You failed. Because lots of people said that they needed to nerf it, because of the fact that there is no clear cut upgrade. In fact, lots of people had thought that with the release of RoK, they would find Avatar loot nerfed. They didn't. Kind of like how the Avatar Caster Robe needs to be nerfed, because well, let's face it. It's overpowered as hell.

Hmmm, I guess you'll have to show me the thread/threads because advanced searching "nerf robe of battle" "nerf avatar robe" with the date set at with in the last year didn't lead me to conclude that anyone was really concerned about it.

Traxor · 03-26-2008, 05:25 PM

The reason no one screamed "nurf robe of battle" was because scouts could wear it and only a hand full of brawlers (NPU with sardonis, CL with taucher and all their other brawlers) got the item.

All the scouts don't want their ONE helm nurfed but the fact is. This is the ONE gi brawlers get besides the one from a fucking heroic instance so you can gtfo. Either way you argue it , your a hypocrite who will argue ANYTHING for your class to be better. Other tanks don't really give a flying fuck, its just the scouts who arn't in guilds who can kill avatars IMO.

The avatar leather chest peice adds 250 ca damage along with 50 crit which is still superior to The Gi of Swirling Lava.

So there is one Gi that is an upgrade and there is an avatar Item that will be given to all the scouts. tbh , I really dont understand what all the bitching about. Let it hit live and if brawlers are unholy gods that are parsing above assassins. then fine............

nurf it

But it wont happen. You cant give me one ounce of prof!

When you read this. Take a step back before posting. Go look at the monk set bonus. The test set bonus. Do it.

Couch · 03-26-2008, 06:05 PM

Who ever trolling for the robe is overpowered, no matter avatar one or swirling lava , is a noob.

Who give it a shit when you can hit 100% or more in raid without the avatar robe or swirling lava.

Most high end melee have over 80% crit in raid now. With the new VP gear, most of them will have over 90% and even hit over 100% crit.

SoE needs to find a new effect on high end loots rather than crit or DA. Even DA is almost capped on high end melee if they can get IA.

Edit: Avatar robe was overpowered in T7 due to most melee have less than 60% crit in raid in T7. Now, most high end melee can hit 100% crit or even more, crit proc is less useful.

TheEasternking · 03-26-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gungo

You are to stupid and kicked from to many guilds for sucking to even reply to your post, but ill repeat myself for your illiterate ass one more time. I never said the gi didnt need to be nerfed. It was and should be. In fact it was nerfed already on test like i said it should be. Actually they made it better then what i said it should by making it 35% 1.8 ppm for 8 secs un modified. Which makes it worse then any other comparable upgrade.

Do yourself and the rest of britain a favor and neuter yourself today dont spread stupidty. In an era where it is hard to find decent players for raid guilds it is truly ironic you were kicked from a multitude of guilds for sucking so much ass.

you are a grade A fucking moron, i have never EVER been removed from any fucking guild in all my time playing eq2, and certainly not for fucking sucking.
you on the other hand a an exploiting fucking idiot, and the laughing stock of raiders World wide. grats on that punk.
the game does not need a 3rd fucking robe of battle period. and certainly not one in v peak.

Mendanbar · 03-26-2008, 06:26 PM

Hi, the fucking Gi is from fucking DRUUSHK. The mob is a pushover. If you don't one-pull it, you suck. That item is way too good to come from such a fucking easy, predictable mob. You can use all the excuses that it's not overpowered because people already have 80 crit all you want, but they got that 80 crit in chunks of 3,5, and 7 crit. Not fucking chunks of 50.

As to crying about the robe of battle... hi, it's from an AVATAR. Not druushk.

Couch · 03-26-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mendanbar

Hi, the fucking Gi is from fucking DRUUSHK. The mob is a pushover. If you don't one-pull it, you suck. That item is way too good to come from such a fucking easy, predictable mob. You can use all the excuses that it's not overpowered because people already have 80 crit all you want, but they got that 80 crit in chunks of 3,5, and 7 crit. Not fucking chunks of 50.

As to crying about the robe of battle... hi, it's from an AVATAR. Not druushk.

Fucking dumb, with new vp itemization, you will get 100% crit with raid buff easily.

We don't need a crit proc to get 100% crit as we did in T7.

With 100%+ crit without the proc, we can already hit crit 90% in most 83-84 mob and 85% crit on 85-86 mob.

The crit proc is lame since it didn't improve dps much on high end players who already have 100%+ crit. It's a simple math and if you can't understand mathematics in elementary level, you need to stop playing and go back to elementary school.

The more important is NERF the fucking Treasureseeker's band and Manipulator hood since they are better than loots in VP!

Oh, and the most overpowered gear is assassin mythical, nerf that shit since you can get it from killing th pussy mob, druushk.

Snark · 03-26-2008, 06:36 PM

The robe of battle can not even be compared in this instance. Only one robe dropped EVER on Nektulos, and in this way you can say it is no different than an artifact! It was also off the hardest encounters of their time. The gi in comparison has dropped many many many more times than the robe ever did, off a MUCH easier non-contested mob.

LFG · 03-26-2008, 06:40 PM

I hope the LU comes soon so I can equip my ring!

Traxor · 03-26-2008, 07:11 PM

No one argued that the mob the item dropped off of was weak. The argument is , there is only one other bp that is better and it drops off an Avatar , and everyone that can wear leather can have this item.

The gi is brawler only, so its not overpowerd

Mendanbar · 03-26-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch

Fucking dumb, with new vp itemization, you will get 100% crit with raid buff easily.

We don't need a crit proc to get 100% crit as we did in T7.

With 100%+ crit without the proc, we can already hit crit 90% in most 83-84 mob and 85% crit on 85-86 mob.

The crit proc is lame since it didn't improve dps much on high end players who already have 100%+ crit. It's a simple math and if you can't understand mathematics in elementary level, you need to stop playing and go back to elementary school.

The more important is NERF the fucking Treasureseeker's band and Manipulator hood since they are better than loots in VP!

Oh, and the most overpowered gear is assassin mythical, nerf that shit since you can get it from killing th pussy mob, druushk.

Hi, again, you can't compare it to what your current crit is with other gear, unless you are comparing a single item to a single item. I don't care if you're already at 80 crit. 50 Crit is a fuckton more than 7 crit.

By your logic, the bp could proc 1000 crit and it still wouldn't be overpowered because people are already at 80 and close to cap. I don't really give a shit, it's called bad design. If you can take a shitty raid alt that's dressed in trash, and from 1 bp drop off an easy-as-fuck mob pretty much max out his crit from much lower than a high-end brawler would have, the item is fucking overpowered.

You also love bringing up the t1-t3 items, but the essential problem with the items you're bringing up is that the devs got lazy in handling the jewelry in VP, they just removed flags. They upgraded a few pieces, and otherwise, left other pieces as total shit. I think treasureseeker's is overpowered, yes, and probably does need a nerf. But what it really makes me question more is how a dev could know that it's out there and think that removing flags from the shitty jewelry was enough to balance it.