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Old 04-08-2008, 09:41 PM  
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Blood Sacrifice is broken.

It states" Increases cast time and halves healing of all heals and wards"

What it does is increase casting time on all BENEFICIAL spells. This includes group buffs, single target, temps ie anything with a casting time thats not a hostile spell.

In addition the 50% increase ignores all item and AA casting speed enhancements.

For example, with no AA the beneficial spell Fae Immolation has a casting speed of 2 seconds...with Blood Sacrifice it takes 3 seconds to cast...a 50% increase or for those who understand the formula 100% casting speed increase.

Now if I put 5 AA into Fae immolation it reduces the casting time by 1 second. When blood sacrifice is up the casting time remains at 3 seconds. It simply negates all other gear/AA enhancements and maxes out the opposite spectrum of the casting time.

At this point in time, blood sacrifice is completely useless as a buff and wanted to make everyone aware.

EDIT - Casting time on Call of Qeynos 45sec, LoL

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Old 04-08-2008, 10:23 PM  
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and it doesn't effect procs.
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:36 AM  
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Welcome to the world of enhance:fanatacism on the inquisitor line. Even with TC, all speed buffs are negated while calculating the lengthened cast time. It is a method of punishing you for having something nice. It sucks, but you have to deal with it.
Now for it affecting more than heals, our AA is just like that too, except it just affects spells only. It messing up call of qeynos does sound crappy.
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Old 04-09-2008, 09:24 AM  
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Welcome to the world of enhance:fanatacism on the inquisitor line. Even with TC, all speed buffs are negated while calculating the lengthened cast time. It is a method of punishing you for having something nice. It sucks, but you have to deal with it.
Now for it affecting more than heals, our AA is just like that too, except it just affects spells only. It messing up call of qeynos does sound crappy.
the point is that it wont be dealt with, it just wont be used b/c it will in fact hurt your personal dps rather than enhance it.
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Old 04-09-2008, 10:02 AM  
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its just a stupid item alltogether imo.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:02 PM  
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i put a feedback in on test about it after playing around with it. nothing was done.
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:51 PM  
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Blood Sacrifice is broken.

It states" Increases cast time and halves healing of all heals and wards"

What it does is increase casting time on all BENEFICIAL spells. This includes group buffs, single target, temps ie anything with a casting time thats not a hostile spell.

In addition the 50% increase ignores all item and AA casting speed enhancements.

For example, with no AA the beneficial spell Fae Immolation has a casting speed of 2 seconds...with Blood Sacrifice it takes 3 seconds to cast...a 50% increase or for those who understand the formula 100% casting speed increase.

Now if I put 5 AA into Fae immolation it reduces the casting time by 1 second. When blood sacrifice is up the casting time remains at 3 seconds. It simply negates all other gear/AA enhancements and maxes out the opposite spectrum of the casting time.

At this point in time, blood sacrifice is completely useless as a buff and wanted to make everyone aware.

EDIT - Casting time on Call of Qeynos 45sec, LoL

For a mage or scout it would be great though since most of the time I'm not casting buffs. PS how've you been Widem. << Silver (oldschool)
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Old 04-10-2008, 10:10 AM  
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For a mage or scout it would be great though since most of the time I'm not casting buffs. PS how've you been Widem. << Silver (oldschool)
I've been pretty good, damn its gotta have been well over a year. I sent a tell to a silver on oasis about 9 months ago, but it was some random nub, still have same character name as b4?

Yeah it would be great for any other class than a healer, which is a paradox of the item itself. It was designed to increase dps as a healer while hampering their healing ability. That much makes sense, but how much does it increase or how much is hampered is it balanced.

For example furies forgo energy vortex (40% hostile spell increase with 50% reduction in healing) b/c of the negative healing requirement, this is even with a 40% base damage bonus.

Now take this item a 10% increase with the same negative effect then throw a 50% casting time increase on all beneficial spells. You healing effectiveness at this point is almost 0 for only a paltry 10% bonus.

Not to mention from a fury's standpoint its even worse b/c a good portion of dps comes from beneficial spells.

It was just a poor effect and SoE refused to take the feedback on it as it obviously not only stifles healing ability but actually hurts your personal dps.

I realy think the item would be fine if they removed the casting speed increase and modified the 10% bonus to fall in line with other 10% bonuses such as dark orb of the mind or blood thirsty choker.

50% healing reduction is a harsh enough penalty in the era of the blood thirsty choker and will ensure the use of the effect sparingly as is.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:26 PM  
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Nah it's Silverghost now on Oasis still. Looking for a 5-7 days a week guild now. Not happy with my current situation.

Yeah I sold Silver last April. Thought I'd never play the game again and realized there is nothing better out there to play now or in the forseeable future so I started from scratch again when RoK came out..

About the item. Yeah I definitely agree if I were a healer I would never equip this item. If it was intended to benefit healers then I think they certainly dropped the ball.
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Old 04-13-2008, 03:37 PM  
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Well somehow they decided to nerf it further. The buff no longer shows up in the maintained spell window so u can't click it use it for 3-5 spells and cancel it. (Which was a joke in and of itself)

So the effect has absolutely no merit at this point.
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