Healer items... why Claymore and HQ's Suck

User9800 · 09-24-2006, 05:54 AM

First off....

Claymore sucks for healers. All that grinding and questing for weeks goes right out the window when in an hour I can go and do a Vaults run and get a Totem of the Droag Watcher and pop it our secondary slot and is more useful. Save yourself some time.... A LOT of time!!!:mad:

Screw the FT on the Claymore!!! In a good raid guild mobs drop fast enough just using the Pris 2, manastone, a shard and heart, and the 10% FT you get from being a healer anyway, the 10% FT you get from AA lines a regen toon in group and I still have 2 bubbles of power left at the end of an Epic fight.

Second....

Deathtoll reward for healers suck. I have better backup T6 Fabled rings from Courts of Al'Afaz. My wrist peices are out of Nizara which takes 3 hours to clear and you get great items once again are better. Compair the fighter reward to the healer reward and get a chuckle. Again screw the FT on the reward along with the INT. Whens the last time a healer needed an INT and FT on the same item. Where the hell is AGI we need for Health? Make it Wis +AGI and some resists. No love there at all.

Third....

Wyrumslayer blows goats.... Again healers got the shaft. Go do all the epics and make your way crafting to see it sold to the vendor as trash or hung in your house. Screw that garbage, give me a class specific that will probably be a back up anyway. When do I get an upgrade to my Pris 2?

Fourth....

Again Vaults puts out more and better items then raid zones. Why is this? Gorget of flowing runes which sells at top dollar is easy to get. Then there is the shield that drops. How about the earring? There are 4 items for healers that drop in that zone that are equal to raid drops. Only difference is that raid drops mostly donn the word Fabled. Wanting good raid drops and currently wearing items found in Vaults and Nizara are only lateral moves in equipment, not upgrades.:confused:

Fifth....

Harla'Darr drops some of the best BP's in the game... I waited my turn and finally the bitch drops leather and it is for monks and priests. The prock is a heal to the wearer on striking a melee blow. Well that makes it a fighter item. I tend to see healers at max range to avoid AOE and be alive to heal the MT. So we got the shaft on that deal. I'll be waiting for Veymm to drop my leather BP again, I have to wait for lady luck to arrive.

Sixth....

Pants and boots???? Where the hell are the pants and boots in the game. Most leather healers are wearing Mastercrafted in both slots. My boots are out of Nizara (again Nizara) and my pants are from a quest from clearing Lyceumm. It's still crap and we never see leather drop in raids for these items. What the hell was SOE thinking when they made Relic leather boots with only one stat? 27 INT? Well if I solo and want to nuke then OH BOY JOHNNY I MADE MY OWN PARSE!!!!:confused:

Healers need some help... the game should me more thought out. The gear should be more helpful to the classes that use it. Monks are not the only people that wear leather and we are not mages. Sure I like to do damage when I can but where does the useless items stop and the benifical ones start in terms of raid drops.

Cochy · 09-24-2006, 12:53 PM

First off....

Claymore sucks for healers. All that grinding and questing for weeks goes right out the window when in an hour I can go and do a Vaults run and get a Totem of the Droag Watcher and pop it our secondary slot and is more useful. Save yourself some time.... A LOT of time!!!:mad:

I dont know why you would use a totem of the droag watcher over the chance to heal more but thats just me

Second....

Deathtoll reward for healers suck. I have better backup T6 Fabled rings from Courts of Al'Afaz. My wrist peices are out of Nizara which takes 3 hours to clear and you get great items once again are better. Compair the fighter reward to the healer reward and get a chuckle. Again screw the FT on the reward along with the INT. Whens the last time a healer needed an INT and FT on the same item. Where the hell is AGI we need for Health? Make it Wis +AGI and some resists. No love there at all.

Claymore shouldn't be the end all of items and I dont know where you are getting that the fighter reward is so much better than the priest one if anything its the other way around. Qeynos Shield is arguably beaten by the shield out of labs. And correct me if I was wrong but I though sta boosted all classes health not agi?

Third....

Wyrumslayer blows goats.... Again healers got the shaft. Go do all the epics and make your way crafting to see it sold to the vendor as trash or hung in your house. Screw that garbage, give me a class specific that will probably be a back up anyway. When do I get an upgrade to my Pris 2?

Its been that way in every tier the prismatic is always the best for a healer so I will give you some credit here. As for the fact that you cant use the wyrmslayer (spelling?) why should a class be able to use every single HQ. Shaman's should be able to use this as they can use great spears but why should druids? Monks have been screwed out of almost every HQ reward but you don't see them begging to be able to use a SBH.

Fourth....

Again Vaults puts out more and better items then raid zones. Why is this? Gorget of flowing runes which sells at top dollar is easy to get. Then there is the shield that drops. How about the earring? There are 4 items for healers that drop in that zone that are equal to raid drops. Only difference is that raid drops mostly donn the word Fabled. Wanting good raid drops and currently wearing items found in Vaults and Nizara are only lateral moves in equipment, not upgrades.:confused:

Last time I checked there were better rewards than gorget of flowing runes for a healer. I know the mist imbued hoop is pretty good for healers but I dont know the exact stats on the vaults earring. Haven't seen the vaults shield but I am sure the shield is no where close to as good as some of the stuff you can get from raiding.

Fifth....

Harla'Darr drops some of the best BP's in the game... I waited my turn and finally the bitch drops leather and it is for monks and priests. The prock is a heal to the wearer on striking a melee blow. Well that makes it a fighter item. I tend to see healers at max range to avoid AOE and be alive to heal the MT. So we got the shaft on that deal. I'll be waiting for Veymm to drop my leather BP again, I have to wait for lady luck to arrive.

Won't even comment on this because there is no way in hell harla drops some of the best BP's in game.

Sixth....

Pants and boots???? Where the hell are the pants and boots in the game. Most leather healers are wearing Mastercrafted in both slots. My boots are out of Nizara (again Nizara) and my pants are from a quest from clearing Lyceumm. It's still crap and we never see leather drop in raids for these items. What the hell was SOE thinking when they made Relic leather boots with only one stat? 27 INT? Well if I solo and want to nuke then OH BOY JOHNNY I MADE MY OWN PARSE!!!!:confused:

Hurricanus drops leather boots, so does Chek'drak, you can also get animist boots out of labs if you can get them to drop. As for pants looking at eq2idb there are animist legs and relic legs (imo) that are better than the ones from the Lyceum quest.

yavanna · 09-24-2006, 02:32 PM

exactly what "healer" do you play user9800?

Nyda · 09-24-2006, 02:42 PM

This thread baffles me.

Cochy · 09-24-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by yavanna

exactly what "healer" do you play user9800?

Its either a fury or a druid from what I have gathered from his post. Both of which have a good amount of loot for them

AricaJade · 09-24-2006, 02:46 PM

ur not the only one. he talks bout playin a leather-wearin healer. okay so am i. i have some kick ass gear, includin a couple relic & couple animist & couple other drops that i was lucky enough to get from raids, several of the items that i have r from the claymore line. i also have my claymore which i LOVE. that extra pop on the heals is NICE. i kept some of the stuff he's talkin bout that is "better" (ie pants from lyceum quest) because of resists, but that's bout it. :confused:

yavanna · 09-24-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by User9800

First off....

Claymore sucks for healers. All that grinding and questing for weeks goes right out the window when in an hour I can go and do a Vaults run and get a Totem of the Droag Watcher and pop it our secondary slot and is more useful. Save yourself some time.... A LOT of time!!!:mad:

how can you compare the 30% heal increase chance and twice as much hp/mp to \aITEM -1844564847 -130344616:Totem of the Droag Watcher\/a, which only has +15 str +18 sta over the claymore?

Screw the FT on the Claymore!!! In a good raid guild mobs drop fast enough just using the Pris 2, manastone, a shard and heart, and the 10% FT you get from being a healer anyway, the 10% FT you get from AA lines a regen toon in group and I still have 2 bubbles of power left at the end of an Epic fight.

not to mention the claymore doesnt even have ft....... and for druid AA lines, there is no 10% ft
Second....

Deathtoll reward for healers suck. I have better backup T6 Fabled rings from Courts of Al'Afaz. My wrist peices are out of Nizara which takes 3 hours to clear and you get great items once again are better. Compair the fighter reward to the healer reward and get a chuckle. Again screw the FT on the reward along with the INT. Whens the last time a healer needed an INT and FT on the same item. Where the hell is AGI we need for Health? Make it Wis +AGI and some resists. No love there at all.

maybe because there are no healer rings that drop out of dt? they drop out of other zones... which wrists from nizarra do you think are better than ones gotten from raids? as to comparing the two dt access rewards, when was the last time any healer needed more str, agi, and haste? as for the different resists, wow 639 more divine, and magic.....

Third....

Wyrumslayer blows goats.... Again healers got the shaft. Go do all the epics and make your way crafting to see it sold to the vendor as trash or hung in your house. Screw that garbage, give me a class specific that will probably be a back up anyway. When do I get an upgrade to my Pris 2?

wurmslayer sucks for priests because.... its a scout item you dumbfuck, also was not for priests in eq1, which the eq2 version is based off of..... and why would you replace a chance to proc a heal for anything besides a bigger chance to proc for a bigger heal, or healing focus effects...

Fourth....

Again Vaults puts out more and better items then raid zones. Why is this? Gorget of flowing runes which sells at top dollar is easy to get. Then there is the shield that drops. How about the earring? There are 4 items for healers that drop in that zone that are equal to raid drops. Only difference is that raid drops mostly donn the word Fabled. Wanting good raid drops and currently wearing items found in Vaults and Nizara are only lateral moves in equipment, not upgrades.:confused:

for healers, there are no items that drop from trash kos instance zones that are even half way comparble to raid drops. if you think so, /quit out now and do eq2 a favor
Fifth....

Harla'Darr drops some of the best BP's in the game... I waited my turn and finally the bitch drops leather and it is for monks and priests. The prock is a heal to the wearer on striking a melee blow. Well that makes it a fighter item. I tend to see healers at max range to avoid AOE and be alive to heal the MT. So we got the shaft on that deal. I'll be waiting for Veymm to drop my leather BP again, I have to wait for lady luck to arrive.

all items off harla dar suck. period.

Sixth....

Pants and boots???? Where the hell are the pants and boots in the game. Most leather healers are wearing Mastercrafted in both slots. My boots are out of Nizara (again Nizara) and my pants are from a quest from clearing Lyceumm. It's still crap and we never see leather drop in raids for these items. What the hell was SOE thinking when they made Relic leather boots with only one stat? 27 INT? Well if I solo and want to nuke then OH BOY JOHNNY I MADE MY OWN PARSE!!!!:confused:

if ANYONE is using mastercrafted for a raid over any raid drop for that slot, they too need to quit the game. the best pants in the game for a warden? relic by far. and for a fury, like they need help with heals... for the arguement that relic boots suck, well no shit, its relic... the better ones are off nontrash mobs...

Healers need some help... the game should me more thought out. The gear should be more helpful to the classes that use it. Monks are not the only people that wear leather and we are not mages. Sure I like to do damage when I can but where does the useless items stop and the benifical ones start in terms of raid drops.

really, judging from this thread, you have no clue about what your talking about and are a complete and total moron. please dont ever talk about druid issues again.

Vormulac · 09-24-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by User9800

Fifth....
Harla'Darr drops some of the best BP's in the game...

Sixth....
Pants and boots???? Where the hell are the pants and boots in the game. Most leather healers are wearing Mastercrafted in both slots.

You are a moron, come back to us when you are done with your pick up relic runs and try again.

Avirodar · 09-24-2006, 04:22 PM

Oh my god...

I feel as if I have lost a part of my soul, from the mind numbing experience of reading such a misinformed post.

I demand compensation for my suffering!

If you think vaults/nizara and harla'dar have the best healer items, you evidently have not seen many of the better healer items the game has to offer from raiding.

- Avi

Kriddle · 09-24-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by User9800

Where the hell is AGI we need for Health?

This right here explains everything I need to know. You are fucking stupid.