View Poll Results: Which ring is better?

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  • Ring of Supremacy

    52 82.54%
  • Band of Braided Veins

    11 17.46%
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    Default Ring of Supremacy, supreme no more?

    People would give their left nut for the Ring of Supremacy, but is it really the best option?



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    Default Re: Ring of Supremacy, supreme no more?

    You've always been all about the math lumi, calculate that shit out somehow. =D

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    Default Re: Ring of Supremacy, supreme no more?

    For starters I dont see too many Defilers liking the new ring.

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    Default Re: Ring of Supremacy, supreme no more?

    Thank God for 2 finger slots?

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    Default Re: Ring of Supremacy, supreme no more?

    Ring of Supremacy is still far superior to anything that adds a weak +35. +65, and maybe it'd be equal.
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    Default Re: Ring of Supremacy, supreme no more?

    What I do know about the Ring of Supremacy is that you have to have two of them for the Disparaging Affliction proc to simply be competitive on the parse. I was looking at one of our conjuror's parses, he uses the Dagger of Arcane Rite (+42-45 dmg? per spell attack) and that thing was blowing away everything but the Mystical Orb of the Invoker. +Spell damage is very similar in behavior to 100% spell attack procs with the exception of the proc scaling, so I wondered if a +35 ring would beat out a single Ring of Supremacy.

    The tedious plan of mine: I don't have an off-the-shelf +35 ring, so I'll need a wizard who has the ring (or another +35 spell damage effect item) to indicate the difference-per-tick of each his/her spells between the effect being on and off. Then I'll take a zonewide parse, rank the proc items, then calculate how much extra damage the effect would have done for me and insert it into the rank.

    The spells in question are:
    Ball of Lava
    Electrifying Flash
    Fiery Convulsions
    Firestorm
    Fusion
    Glacial Wind
    Ice Nova
    Incapacitate
    Irradiate
    Rending Icicles
    Sunstrike
    Surging Tempest

    Any questions?

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    Default Re: Ring of Supremacy, supreme no more?

    Lumi, just use the Matron bracelet and pretend it's a ring for parsing purposes of comparison. I'd do it for you but don't have the DT ring.

    Oh, and my spell attack spells would be different from yours.

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    Default Re: Ring of Supremacy, supreme no more?

    The test will have to wait. The expected formulaic numbers aren't 100% matching what the spell description shit jumble reads. Incapacitate has a 3 second cast time, is not a DOT and is not an AE. Therefore it should be a +65 bonus with the Ro cloak right? Wrong, it's more like 2/3 of that.

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    Default Re: Ring of Supremacy, supreme no more?

    Ring of Supremacy > Ring of Braided Vines.

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    Default Re: Ring of Supremacy, supreme no more?

    i don't know if i am off on my math but i would think the bolt 7 would be better.

    279*1.8=500.4 damage per minute max
    35*20=700 damage per minute

    i don't have the ring of supremacy since my guild is EXTREMELY unlucky with it dropping so i don't know if it procs more than the listed amount. cleared DT every week since i joined in june (and did before i joined too) and got a grand total of 0 rings.

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