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    Default Re: Stormcaller

    Aoeing with stormcaller is a lot of fun, one of the most important things to keep in mind is how lightning field with the charged field upgrade works, as the spell order on aoes effectively changes due to the number of enemies you are facing. Charged field works by chaining from one mob to up to three other mobs surrounding it and doing dmg to each, however, each time it chains to an enemy it will take off an electrified effect.

    So against four+ enemies when you have three stacks of electrified on each casting lightning field will cause each mob to get hit 4 times (1 lightning field and 3 charged fields from the surrounding mobs) but will also take away all three electrifieds (also remember the ui on electrified is bugged and will not show them being removed after charged field takes them away so you have to keep track of it mentally) so you will have to reapply them to hit them again with field.

    Against three enemies with three stacks casting field will cause three hits per mob (1 lightning field and 2 charged fields) and remove 2 stacks (if you cast it again it will do 1 lighting field hit per mob and 1 charged field hit and take away the remaining stack, and if you cast it a third time you will see that it doesnt' do any dmg bc at this point all your stacks will be used up)

    Against 1 mob the charged field does not chain to anyone so you can keep casting lightning field as much as you want until the electrified effect wears off, etc...

    So aoeing with sc has a little bit of complexity in that you have to recognize number of mobs you are going against.

    The best way to apply the electrifieds in terms of dps I find for multiple mobs is to use Lightning Storm for three ticks of dmg (so you are maxed on electrified) and then go straight into lightning field. This is even better than lettting Lightning storm run its full course and forked lightning in my experience (and also hits more than 4 mobs at once which is a benefit over forked lightning). However to reapply electrifieds after that when Lightning storm is on cooldown use forked lightning for the amount of times needed.

    Another thing to keep in mind is that having a higher amount of electrifieds on mobs produces more dmg than a lower amount of electrifieds..... so against, say, three enemies, bouncing between 3 electrified stacks and 1 (by doing forked lightingx2 then a field and repeating) is actually better in the long term than bouncing between 2 stacks and 0 stacks, even if the rotation is the same.

    So its actually more complex than it seems at first, and its actually kinda fun imo as you have to keep track of number of mobs AND guess their remaining life.

    So in summary
    For 4+ mobs- Lightning Storm for 3 ticks, Lightning Field, Forked Lightingx3 to reapply electrifieds (unless storm is up), Lightning Field, Forked Lightingx3, etc...

    For 3 mobs- Lightning Storm for 3 ticks, Lightning Field, Forked Lightingx2, Lightning Field, repeat until mob is about to die then after a Lightning Field (you should have 1 stack left) Forked Lightningx1 and then Lightning Field to finish off the stacks.

    For 2 mobs- Lightning Storm for 3 ticks, Lightning Field, Forked Lighting Lightning Field, etc... until the mobs are about to die then Lightning Field x3 after you are at 3 stacks.

    For 1 mob- the rotation is much more complex hehe.
    (stormcaller is actually a very rewarding class in pve, its both the best single target and aoe dps for mage atm and has a lot of complexity i find)

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    Default Re: Stormcaller

    For single target I find I use a spellorder of
    Raging Storm (to apply electrifieds)
    Ice Shear for the buff
    Lightning Strike
    Lightning Fieldx4
    Forked Lightning to refresh the electrfieds
    Lightning Strike
    Ice Shear (as buff should be wearing off here)
    to start off, but after that it changes up some

    I'm mainly just going off of a priority of
    Make sure buffs are up>Lightning Strike>Lightning Field for dps you have to make sure the ice shear buff and the electrified effects are constantly up as much as possible (rs just for the initial application). Just using this sort of order makes the rotation change up a lot over time because of how the cds and buff durations end up at different times.

    Also Static Discharge, Static Flux, and Intensify Elements you have on cd and should be cast together bc they stack on each other.

    Channeled Elements also for mana regen if you don't have potions

    I'm still messing around with it some, to maybe include hypothermias more and figure out if I should be using raging storm for more than electrified applications but the spell order works pretty good .

    For single target in raids having other scs (bc the electrifieds stack) and having a lot of sp, as dps scales A LOT with sp for mage, is also very important for maximum dmg.

    Edit: sorry for such a massive (and probably uninteresting post) of me rambling lol

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    Thank you for the answers )
    Don't argue with an idiot, first they'll bring you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

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    Default Re: Stormcaller

    I also don't utilize hypothermia on my SC build, I'll have to take a look on a dummy tonight. Otherwise I'm doing pretty similar to that.

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    I am at a loss and banging my head on my desk at this point.

    I am following the set rotation in this thread

    i have nearly 900 spell power

    but i am lucky to break 500 single target dps.

    what the hell is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alunadriea View Post
    I am at a loss and banging my head on my desk at this point.

    I am following the set rotation in this thread

    i have nearly 900 spell power

    but i am lucky to break 500 single target dps.

    what the hell is going on.
    hmm that seems kinda low for your sp.... can you post your build maybe the issue is with that?

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    34SC/32 Elem it is basically the build from bluedotmage

    Soul Tree Calculator: Stormcaller (34) / Elementalist (32) :: Rift :: ZAM

    along with the 0 point archon buffs

    i am wondering if it down to timing at this point and keeping the electrfiy and ice shear up at all costs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alunadriea View Post
    34SC/32 Elem it is basically the build from bluedotmage

    Soul Tree Calculator: Stormcaller (34) / Elementalist (32) :: Rift :: ZAM

    along with the 0 point archon buffs

    i am wondering if it down to timing at this point and keeping the electrfiy and ice shear up at all costs .
    hmm :/ yea keeping those buffs up is really important, another thing is if you are using the riftjunkies parser as opposed to ACT it might be separating your pet's parse from your own. The easiest rotations just involve ragining storm to build the first three charges, ice shear, lightning strike, lightning fieldx4, and then forked lighting to refresh the electrifieds and then ice shear again, at this point you basically can just redo the strike and fields again (the 0 point archon is so you can get the pillagin stone stacks before or at the start of the fight). But keeping up the buffs is pretty important electrifieds especially since your fields won't do any damage if they run out. Other than that idk what to say (sorry if this isn't helpful) your build seems fine, the parses scale with spellpower a lot though so there is big differences as you get more sp but at 900 sp you should still be able to do 800 imo, and just keep in mind that to try to keep dpsing as much as possible without breaks.

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    Default Re: Stormcaller

    on fights where there is not a lot of moving required using building storm (arctic blast) is highly recommended

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    Default Re: Stormcaller

    Quote Originally Posted by curuw View Post
    on fights where there is not a lot of moving required using building storm (arctic blast) is highly recommended
    agreed! I'm just now startingto use AB with building storm more in rotations ^^ makes it way more complicated but its def really good.

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