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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Debase View Post
    Wanted to chime in on this issue too. The better cast time and greater damage from void bolt is definitely quite nice. However, the double deathly calling stacks from plague bolt make it as good or better imo. There are so many pet abilities whose damage/function is increased through using deathly calling that I think it balance out.
    i use grave rot for the stacks pretty sure the void bolt + life leech gives better over all dps (it also frees the 5 pts from deadly plague to be spent more effective)

    as for the 51/15 necro/war build its the best single target dps build i have tested so far (at least on the training dummy)
    the 51 ability does some massive dps (450+ with my current gear and lich form up for the 30 secs duration)

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by curuw View Post
    i use grave rot for the stacks pretty sure the void bolt + life leech gives better over all dps (it also frees the 5 pts from deadly plague to be spent more effective)
    That's interesting. So do you put points in Void Bolt Cast time in lieu of the 5 points in Plague Bolt (thus gaining 2 points to play with elsewhere)? or do you put points in neither and spend them up the Warlock tree?

    Here's what I'm considering now that I've thought about

    Soul Tree Calculator: Warlock (34) / Necromancer (32) / Archon (0) :: Rift: Planes of Telara :: ZAM

    In your experience, is the mage pet as shit as I have seen in messing with it? I get much better performance out of the upgraded scout pet for dps and the tank pet for soloing. Thoughts?

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1zvw_.ecMhoVVxz.xtczVuous
    thats my alround/aoe spec with voidbolt + life leech

    mage pet is better for aoe pulls. i usually use it for fights vs more then 2 mobs
    i did up to 1.4k dps on 3-4 mob encounters in t1 expert today

    around 650 on single target boss fights with the 51necro/15 wlock


    opportunity is kind of useless since you dont have long casting spells
    also you should skill empty the crypts because it adds good dps (can insta cast it withe exhume)

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by curuw View Post
    also you should skill empty the crypts because it adds good dps (can insta cast it withe exhume)
    I'll have to parse this out I think. Given how rapidly it erodes charge relative to being able to cast back-to-back soul purges for the same charge, I'd be interested in the dps comparison.

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Checking in again. Only 38, using a version of curuw's build set for my level. I have to say, it's a vast improvement and I am very pleased. The more I look at it, the more I'm wondering what (if anything) could be lost to gain 5% crit from ES? If empty the crypts is not worth it (no idea yet), could be that and 1 point each from vengeful spirit, lingering pain, imp warlock armor, and radiate death.

    But I'm not convinced that's a good trade off.
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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    crypts did 5.988 damage in 16 secs on the last mob in kings breach for me yesterday.
    maximum duration on the corpses is 20 seconds (if you use a charge potion or devouring shadows to gain additional charge while they are up)
    the charge gain on devouring shadows may not be working as intended but...

    use it with lich form and when group shortbuffs from other classes are running

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    EtC is honestly one of the best charge dumps in game IMO. If i hear another idiot say "but soul purge does damage," i may cut. I mean channel Vrs instant cast(with exhume) is it really that hard to figure out while it beats purge.

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ballads View Post
    EtC is honestly one of the best charge dumps in game IMO. If i hear another idiot say "but soul purge does damage," i may cut. I mean channel Vrs instant cast(with exhume) is it really that hard to figure out while it beats purge.
    Ballads is right, exhume working on EtC changes everything. The damage of EtC + the damage you can do with life leech/void bolt while not channeling > the channeled damage of soul purge.

    For the record, 51 warlock looked better on paper than in reality. It wasn't a terrible spec, but 33/33 is a better all around spec and 51 nec/15 warlock is better ST.

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by curuw View Post
    the charge gain on devouring shadows may not be working as intended but...

    I'm hoping it is working as intended, it allows for some interesting cast sequences. ;(

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Guess I'm changing back my spec to get Empty The Crypt then.

    I understand void bolt does more damage then plague bolt, but usually I only cast a bolt when I'm in need of a little charge build up and all of my DoTs are up. I feel like it makes more sense to have extra stacks of DC then to just do a extra 50-75 damage because the pet makes better use of that dps increase.

    Those are the only things in my spec im not sure of, having 5 into plauge bolt or getting points into life leech in warlock to refresh from void bolt



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