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    Default Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    I'm level 32 and thus far have had success putting all my points into warlock, with the leftovers into Necro. Below is my projected level 50 build. My gear is passable, not great by any stretch but either quested or instanced, with the planar essences being mostly green/blue from Scarlet Gorge.

    Soul Tree Calculator: Warlock (51) / Necromancer (15) / Dominator (0) :: Rift: Planes of Telara :: ZAM

    I parsed 192 zw in FC last night.

    All I'm asking is...how viable is this as an endgame spec? I've read/heard that a hybrid necro/lock is awesome, but I don't see much ahead that will increase my damage output

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    I'm sure in some situtations it will kick ass. It's not going to be a spec you can always run with, nothing will be.

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    I think the synergy between these 2 souls is excellent, but my feeling is that you'd actually benefit more from a more balanced spec, rather than going the full 51 in Warlock.

    My reasons are predominately that Warlock buffs damage a ton (Dots, crits, base damage, etc), but provides fewer attacks that can maximally utilize them. In my opinion, the Warlock 32-51 abilities aren't good enough to justify losing everything from 16-31 in the Necro tree. You may find differently, but this game allows for a lot of testing to determine which spec work best in different situations.

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Maxing out Warlock isn't that great on DPS because there's a lot of non-DPS skills in the tree. Reduce Damage, more HP, a stun that is low-dps, fears, snare, silence, etc.

    You'll want more points in Necro instead of the points you're spending on non-dps in Warlock.
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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    The whole point of 51 in Warlock is empowered darkness, which can be a significant dps increase with the right build. However, I would not recommend 51 warlock/15 necro as a max level build. You'll get better dps out of something like this:

    Soul Tree Calculator: Warlock (51) / Necromancer (9) / Elemental Summoner (6) :: Rift: Planes of Telara :: ZAM

    The elemental points are merely for the 5% crit increase, and a shield for added survivability that can be situationally handy, and revitalize has its uses. In Necro you get 5% death damage, and all of your damage spells are death with this build, buffed necrosis which stacks nicely with the Neddra's Influence talent, and a purge ability that also functions as a mana return (consumption). You will get better dps out of this build then a 51 warlock/15 necro build.

    However, for a nice levelling build that gives you a good combination of dps, efficiency, and flexibility I recommend something like this:

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1z...Vxk.xkcxmzk.Vz

    You get all the dot crit and damage bonus synergy as well as feign death and upgraded pets both of which are useful while levelling. Rotation for levelling is dot the target up, void bolt until max charge, then soul purge. Rinse and repeat and you're a grinding machine. This is a strong solo build that is flexible enough to put out good dps in instance groups as well.

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    i really like how the 33warlock/33necro plays and also got a 51necro/15warlock im testing atm

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Thanks for the tips. Thinking on the 5 ES for Crit, and looking at what I can reasonably boost dps-wise, I came up with something like this:
    Soul Tree Calculator: Necromancer (31) / Warlock (30) / Elemental Summoner (5) :: Rift: Planes of Telara :: ZAM

    Not having Radiate Death is my only regret, but I'm not sure I can manage it and Lich Form and 5% Crit from ES. This build does lose a lot of life gain compared to what I'm running now, plus void bolt is not given any talent points, but I think I'll be pleased with it as far as damage goes.

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by curuw View Post
    i really like how the 33warlock/33necro plays and also got a 51necro/15warlock im testing atm
    I'm aiming for a warlock 32/necro 34 myself. Only 45 atm, so working the last few points, but I think its a great build imo. For AE fights, Corpse Explosion might make it worth it to go warlock 28/Necro 38, but if its a true AE fight, you're likely better with a Warlock 32-34/Stormcaller 32-34 build anyhow.

    The 51 Necro ability is pretty awesome, but I can't see it trumping the huge damage bonuses available with warlock 15-30. Let me know what you think though.

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Salurto View Post
    Not having Radiate Death is my only regret, but I'm not sure I can manage it and Lich Form and 5% Crit from ES. This build does lose a lot of life gain compared to what I'm running now, plus void bolt is not given any talent points, but I think I'll be pleased with it as far as damage goes.

    Thoughts/Feedback welcome
    I think that's a reasonable build depending on what you're trying to do. I'd just not sure that the 5 points in ES Crit outweighs having the Necro 32 (+ Feign Death which is amazing), Radiate Death, Archon 0 point abilities and a few other points sprinkled around elsewhere.

    Also, has your experience with Empty the Crypts been good? I am about to swap out of that ability as I see it as a complete waste of charge.

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    Default Re: Warlock/Necro 51/15 how viable is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Salurto View Post
    plus void bolt is not given any talent points, but I think I'll be pleased with it as far as damage goes.
    Wanted to chime in on this issue too. The better cast time and greater damage from void bolt is definitely quite nice. However, the double deathly calling stacks from plague bolt make it as good or better imo. There are so many pet abilities whose damage/function is increased through using deathly calling that I think it balance out.

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