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Old 03-08-2008, 01:36 PM  
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yes this is my rant

i've been around the block a bit on this server and seen many people come and go. what i don't quite get is people deluded who join a raiding guild wanting to raid and shortly after start to become ghosts.

i'm sick as fuck of helping outfit people who are on the verge of quitting so don't fucking apply to a raid guild if you think it's going to fix the game for you.

i'm sick as fuck of working my ass off and moving nowhere.

i'm sick as fuck of this game because people have made me sick of it.

why the hell would i continue to be there everyday just for people to come on a few raids then leave? is this server really dying?

raiding requires knowledge, it requires patience and it requires work. alot of which many people just do not want to devote to any or all of those things to. i'm patient with people willing to learn, i am not patient with people who give up easily and take the things i helped them get and either go off to do their own thing or move on to bigger and better things when things get a little tough.

fuck it, i needed to vent.


short and to the point, that's the way i roll.

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Old 03-08-2008, 03:59 PM  
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raiding requires knowledge, it requires patience and it requires work. alot of which many people just do not want to devote to any or all of those things to. i'm patient with people willing to learn, i am not patient with people who give up easily and take the things i helped them get and either go off to do their own thing or move on to bigger and better things when things get a little tough.

fuck it, i needed to vent.
This is the entire problem with the majority of the players (at least here on MM), and that's just being honest - truth hurts sometimes. WAY too many people want shit just handed to them, and aren't willing to put out any effort to get it.
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Old 03-08-2008, 04:22 PM  
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i wannabe raider.

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Old 03-10-2008, 10:00 AM  
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should have joined us long time ago bro. Unnamed = No BS
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:15 AM  
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It's not just BotF, Lyger; it's not just Mistmoore - it's everyone. All servers, raiding guilds are dealing with this. Whether it's because progression is blocked, difference of opinion with leadership, or the game becoming less enchanting, people are leaving for other things.

This is how I tend to view it. Every player has a different level of loyalty and a different expectation of what they are willing to deal with to achieve their goals. Some want a quick route to gear. Some have an agenda for bigger and better things. Some people just want to see everything before they quit. The reasons people leave any level of guild are different, but it happens to all of us.

I remember being in less hardcore guilds when recruiting really was a problem. It's hard to find people, because of the stepping stone thing. People come, get a little ways with you and then move on to what they feel are bigger things and it holds you back from growing together. I can sympathize with where you're coming from.

We have similar issues for the following reasons. People join us and see everything and think, "Hey! I beat the game. I can quit now." Sometimes people don't realize the commitment they are making to join us. Every time we solidify our roster, someone ends up deciding to quit the game. Sometimes we lose people to higher ranked WW guilds too, because they think they'll find more happiness there.

Replacing people becomes a chore because of the need to maintain progression. The game isn't helping guilds keep people right now, do to bad progression and loot. It's a trickle down effect from the top. If the higher end guilds stop losing people to bad game progression and poorly designed zones/items, they have no room on their roster. If they have a full roster, they have no room for people to defect from mid level guilds to move up. If people are forced to stay together and learn, they become a better unit.

That's my POV anyway...feel free to disagree.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:28 AM  
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I'm a wannabe raider as well Madrat. Bards unite
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:30 AM  
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that's how i see it also, choadley.

people have been leaving the game at an alarming rate. with higher end guilds constantly needing to replenish their roster, and the unsatisfied raiders in the other guilds constantly breaking off to form new guilds and trading people while still losing people to the high end guilds, it's no surprise that the raiding community is in such turmoil.

it's hard to claim loyalty to anything in a game. sure, there are people on the other side of the high speed internet line. but we all pay the same subscription fee, and if someone isn't getting to experience the content they want, or experience the content in the way they want, then they should put themselves in a new situation.

making friends in the game is cool. i've met a lot of awesome people that i've enjoyed talking to and grouping with (even if some of them are horrible players ). but, it comes down to paying for content and wanting to experience all of it and see everything there is to see... some people are into building and stabilizing guilds. others just want to hop into an experienced group that's already in play.
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:31 AM  
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I'm a wannabe raider as well Madrat. Bards unite
loot whores for more loot!

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Old 03-10-2008, 11:40 AM  
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like my new title Mad?

I changed it just for you
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:57 AM  
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lol!

yes... unfortunately, i think that's a three-way contested title.
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