The other Monk DPS thread! - Page 2

Blanka · 09-19-2007, 07:58 AM

I am assuming this previous guy meant
4-4-8-8-1 down WIS
4-4-8 down INT
from what he was talking about and also meant IA when referring to the illusionist.

As far as the tranquil vision aa its pretty useless IMO and a waste of points.

Normack · 09-19-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Blanka

as the tranquil vision aa its pretty useless IMO and a waste of points.

When you dont have the luxury of having a hate transfer for when your OTing, this 1 point can make a big difference if placed on a good conjuror, wizard, warlock, brigand, etc..

Zaen aka uridol · 09-19-2007, 01:02 PM

You are right about the AA set-up my bad there. Also was looking for apply poison from assassin.

While i agree a lot of you won't like the tranquil vision thing, it does a great deal of benefit for me, as i offtank a lot and the hate really helps me...as well as i can do plenty of dps, so if i am just dpsing, it is more hate to our MT even if not much.

Blanka · 09-19-2007, 02:37 PM

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You are right about the AA set-up my bad there. Also was looking for apply poison from assassin.

While i agree a lot of you won't like the tranquil vision thing, it does a great deal of benefit for me, as i offtank a lot and the hate really helps me...as well as i can do plenty of dps, so if i am just dpsing, it is more hate to our MT even if not much.

If a MT can't hold hate on you then you should be tanking. If it is a raid and he can't hold hate find a new MT. And for grabbing agro from a dpser you will get more agro spending your aa's on your taunts and dmg skills. It is a useless skill.

Zaen aka uridol · 09-19-2007, 03:16 PM

MT holds agro fine...
As for upgrading my taunts...i did that once...didn't help as much for me...i have experimented with both...

Normack · 09-19-2007, 08:23 PM

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If a MT can't hold hate on you then you should be tanking. If it is a raid and he can't hold hate find a new MT. And for grabbing agro from a dpser you will get more agro spending your aa's on your taunts and dmg skills. It is a useless skill.

With my current EOF spec I don't have any points in taunt enhancements; with my spec its only 1 point out of the way to get TV. To say it is a useless skill is seriously retarded. I know this is a flames board, but w/o just saying *blah blah you're dumb* can you honestly tell someone that spending 1 point in TV and having 1 less point in any other ability will HURT them?

If you have a dirge or coercer or scout transfer, ya you don't need the enhanced TV. But will it hurt? No, not in my opinion, how can a 9% amends castable cross raid ever hurt?

Blanka · 09-19-2007, 10:59 PM

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With my current EOF spec I don't have any points in taunt enhancements; with my spec its only 1 point out of the way to get TV. To say it is a useless skill is seriously retarded. I know this is a flames board, but w/o just saying *blah blah you're dumb* can you honestly tell someone that spending 1 point in TV and having 1 less point in any other ability will HURT them?

If you have a dirge or coercer or scout transfer, ya you don't need the enhanced TV. But will it hurt? No, not in my opinion, how can a 9% amends castable cross raid ever hurt?

Yes 1 point in that skill is a waste now go jump in a fire and die

Normack · 09-19-2007, 11:49 PM

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Yes 1 point in that skill is a waste now go jump in a fire and die

So you never tank? Or are you saying extra hate is dumb? Or is the sarcasm just so fucking thick I can't see through it.

Blanka · 09-20-2007, 12:33 PM

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So you never tank? Or are you saying extra hate is dumb? Or is the sarcasm just so fucking thick I can't see through it.

It is better to just throw that extra point into a % skill increase. Honestly this is going nowhere. The skill sucks and is a joke and nobody should get it.

TheGimpMonk · 09-20-2007, 03:37 PM

Taking 9% of a sorcerer with TC in a different group is totally useless when tanking adds... (It doesn't seem like much but 9% adds up. because you are also lowering the hate of the person who is most likely to pull agro. I would like it to be more but calling that useless is beyond me especially seeing as you can have all the really important skills maxed: heal, cures, kicks, jabs (f silent palm), tsunami, aoe taunt)

I enjoy having my mini amends 9% hate leach and it is cross raid. IE if you are tanking a boss you can put it on the ranger who is not really hurt jousting aoes and get a large amount of hate. If you are tanking an aoe fight you can leach from an aoer and get even more aoe hate but what would a monk want aoe hate for seeing as we are so uber at generating it.

The 5% hate feed is a joke though. I guess with current hate systems it is still helping but ehh 5%... woohoo

... I really don't want it to be more because want to be high on the hate list and when just killing trash. I find this skill gives back the some if not more of agro that is lost when the warriors have players blocking for them.

As for only having one point... ehh throw it in fire breath or something it would probably be better.