Miresh

I am intrigued by the Juggernaut set. The helm has +5% dodge (I think its dodge) and the 3 set piece is +5% riposte which amounts to roughly 10% additional uncontested avoidance. In def stance, that would give us superior avoidance to warriors and at least give us something in other stances. Anyone have any other thoughts on this? Unfortunately, the warrior helm as +5 shield block, so this doesn't help us catch up much, but it is an improvement.

Kuian

I'm not familiar with this set, mind a little more details like link to the stats and what not and where it comes from?

TheGimpMonk

This set is the brawler set t1 t2 raids drop it. Dodge does not transfer over when we are blocking for the MT (or simply using mini amends) but 5% is still a very nice upgrade for us when tanking and offers uncontested avoidance. Compared to the "end monk set" which you can see easily when you go to the JW docks if you have enough faction. This set is superior for a 3 set bonus and even some items are simply superior.

I can definatly see myself wearing the shoulders boots chest of the monk set with the helm leggings forearms from the juggernaught set. For all around better dps and tanking.

As for the gloves... The gardeners gloves are superior to the end set gloves and I have not seen juggernaught gloves as of this post.


Add this in with the 15% dodge two hander and we will have 20% uncontested dodge.

This will equal out to having at best from what I have seen, 5% riposte 4% parry 20% dodge 16% deflect uncontested. Or roughly 38% uncontested avoidance. By having so many forms of uncontested avoidance parry dodge and deflect we suffer from having our real uncontested avoidance lowered. Where warriors will get 48% uncontested avoidance from only block without even being in defensive and they will be able to use 3% riposte adornments on their weapon where our two hand crush can only have a few defense points added on which is pointless for epic tanking... IE if our two hander could have a fabled 5% dodge adornment made for crushing weapons we would be cancling out the plate adornments for sword and board but soe cant have that.

If turning deflection into uncontested avoidance such as block would be overpowerd... which it wouldnt be but soe apparently thinks it would then... Our defensive stance should change all of our deflection to uncontested avoidance giving us roughly 57% uncontested avoidance on raids and at best 65% real avoidance. We will still be one shotted by every end raid mob in game would it really matter if we had true avoidance?

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pagansaint

There were 1h slash that were brawler usable in EoF, don't see why there would not be any in RoK. So you COULD get the 3% riposte adornments also.

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FatheadBlah

I am still curious about these dodge% adders, Are they uncontested or just added to base avoidance? Anyone got some hard info on those items?

Miresh

If an item says "will dodge/parry/riposte/deflect", then it is uncontested avoidance, so the 3 piece bonus is uncontested. The skullcap is +5 dodge, listed as a stat, not an effect. I am not sure how that is treated, but I beleive it is uncontested.
Also keep in mind that uncontested avoidance does not add up (unless it is the same type) ... rather it multiples. The results are close, but not identical (i.e. 16% deflect, 5% dodge, and 5% riposte comes out to 24.2%, not 26%).

brentiger

I think they should add in some adornments for crushing weapons (3% riposte or whatever) similar the the ones for slash.

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eq2brawler

I'm wondering about this question too. Would be lovely if our + dodge was still contested while plate guys are getting more + uncontested block. Also, anyone know who drops the juggernaut head? 8)

pagansaint

Uncontested, just the same as +parry% +riposte% and +block%.

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eq2brawler

Are you basing that off of testing, a dev's comment, or just what you would expect it to do?