Kuian

It's not overpowered as whenever I use it in a raid I die as soon as Tsunami wears off. But that's the trade off for it.

Mimn

Ummm I am gonna say this. As a brawler that does everything this skill is a godsend. You can use it to work with your plate offtank by yanking a mob or add to him holding it for 10 seconds while agro is built and releasing it onto the Offtank. That time allows the off tank to get hate put on him and to change out weapons for better tank weapons and shield.

Hell i even off tanked the priest in the multimob encounter in Procetors realm by pulling him out of the mob to the dps and tanking him. Throw up your stone skin stance when tsunami is about to run out and that was long enough to hold the mob untill it was dead.

I use it all the time when tanking ROK heroic zones. I use it on the sisters In maidens to lock Xe onto me so any aoe class can go all out crazy and i dont lose agro. I love every aspect of it and use it all the time so i guess soe is gonna nerf it as all great things for brawlers come to an end.

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Faxon

eh i really dont think it will be nerfed that hard if at all, sure there are situations where it can be overpowered, but you could say the same thing of other classes agro abilities. one thing monks have been lacking for the longest time is serious snap/lockdown agro in a situation where giving time to build and hold could be fatal. i for see this ability being used most often the ways we have all described, as a means of holding a mob while the MT builds on it, then dropping the mob off onto them. if anything it makes us work with our tanks better and co-ordinate agro, pulls, and who has a mob when and for what reason. combined with our ability to basically not take damage for a short duration (something we got before everyone else did), i think this kind of ability is exactly what a raiding monk needs to really feel like they are worth something to a growing raid force

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Trumak

If you can't understand that a forced target for 90 seconds is overpowered you're fucking dumb. It trivializes any mob with a mem wipe, and any rooted mob.

You can tsunami, then hit your root/stun mit buffs and be sitting at like 8k mit while not even attacking but keeping aggro. No class in the game should have locked aggro for 90 seconds period. Try and rationalize it all you want but all you are doing is trying to avoid it getting nerfed which it should and will be.

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brentiger

Monks finally get the edge over bruisers, cry us a river hahaha.

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Duggie

It is about time Monk's got something better than Bruiser's! Now they are crying a river all right. Monks overpowered please. Monk's have been the red headed step child for a long time. So all you non Monk's trying to get something nerfed go screw yourself. If Monk's are so overpowered then how come you don't see 3-5 Monk's in a raid uh? Do us a favor and cry somewhere else please.

Miresh

I have decided that Peel is a test for monks. They think all we ever do is complain, so they decided to put in an over-powered ability for a short time to see what we would say. 90s, total lock-down IS over-powered. As Trumak says, it trivializes any mob with a memwipe. My hope is that they reduce both the duration and the recast on the skill in order to tone it down ... perhaps add an imunity to it as well, so you cannot stack monks to lock down agro.
What it needs to keep is the ability to generate snap agro, which is something we sorely lack. The ability to hold a memwiping mob is also a unique ability, and that component should stay in in some way as well. I also like that it actually gives us a chance to use our stun stance. It just shouldn't last as long as it does with the ability to chain it with other monks.

Mimn

Sorry to say this but there is other classes with abilities that make mobs lesser. Removal of damage shields on mobs? Mezzing heroic adds? Insane debuffs from brigs?

These are things you have to deal with and if you bring a monk you can get by a memwiping mob? Sorry I am gonna call it as it is. Sour grapes. A class that needed a great utility got it and everyone is mad they didnt get it for their class. I must be a duying breed as of a person though. I dont like seeing any other class being nerfed tbh. A guardian gets nerfed I feel it being part of the raid team.

Christ why cant people for once be happy for another class instead of pissing and moaning that they didnt get it. Bruisers if you had this and we had divide and conquer would you be sitting there screaming for the devs to take it away? Yes i compare myself to other classes but i dont sit there and scream that the melee scout dps is too high, nerf them or tear on guards for nerfing because they have greater mit and agro tools.

And as of chaining I would fully say its fair that a mob had peel immunity after one monk peels it. Bring in 4 monks to a zone and you would never have a mem wipe. This tool is ment to be used to snap agro lock a mob down when you are deagroed and have to switch into defensive stance and even stone stance. Also any mob that debuffs maintained buffs can get peel off themselves ((example drusella in maidens she has removed peel from herslef in the past))

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Daae

OTing Treyloth D'Kulvith in FTH last night, I was trying to use Peel to get him back to the MT after he mem wipes, but it just wasn't working. Found I was having to Rescue to get his attention..... whats with that?

Daae

Taucher

I'm going to go ahead and say that's a problem with the mobs, not the ability.

Raid mobs should be designed to take into account the abilities of the players, not the other way around. Take, for example, the recent change to stationary mobs in regards to Drag.

Edit: I also meant to make a "Variety is the spice of life" point. That is, I fully expect a number of rooted encounters to nullify the effects of Peel, but I don't think all should.