t7 masters vs t8 adept3s?

Teejay · 01-10-2008, 11:18 PM

Is there anywhere that has the values of the adept3/master1 of the t8 spells?

This will probably only be relevant to Monks who were at 70 for ages and mastered everything.

I tried eq2idb but its not been updated afaik

Miresh · 01-11-2008, 12:58 PM

I was almost completely mastered in T7, and I have found it is virtually useless to upgrade to AD3 in T8. Most CA's show a slight increase in damage with an even larger increase in power, so efficiency is much worse. Some things, like the raid-wide buff, are actually worse in the T8 AD3. If you are looking for every little bit of damage increase, then upgrade, but I would save the plat for buying the masters you just can't get to drop.

Jarrgoon · 01-13-2008, 03:44 AM

The price of T7 masters is generally a lot better than T8 ad3s. Compare them on the broker to see if they are even worth upgrading to. There are probably a few. I'm fully T7 mastered and I'm having a hard time justifying "upgrading" until either rares get really cheap, or I can go straight to M1s. This tier seems to be especially bad for diminished returns...

DaDodge · 01-14-2008, 06:53 AM

Yo Teejay :P u forgot one thing i think was worth it upgrading to AD3's in T8.
==> To Hit. it aint helping if you wont hit the basterds ... i settled with most AD3's
kept a few T7 Masters in my hotbars but the Damadge CA's i would suggest you upgrade; you dont want to rely on lvl70 or below spels to hit a lvl80+ Mob

CHeers!

eq2brawler · 01-14-2008, 10:57 AM

Where is it stated that higher level spells have a higher chance to hit?

Pinski · 01-14-2008, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eq2brawler

Where is it stated that higher level spells have a higher chance to hit?

In the "I'm a moron and full of shit" handbook.

KFizzle · 01-14-2008, 02:34 PM

the ONLY thing i kept for my Monk that was a t7 Master over the t8 ad3, was the Swiftness thing (the haste/casting speed thing) because i think it was equal or lower (or at least one of the two was lower), but i got it in a t8 m1 now.

Miresh · 01-15-2008, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinski

In the "I'm a moron and full of shit" handbook.

I am NOT seeing a big mis-rate in T1-T3 raid zones using the T7 masters. The ones that do state resistability versus a level are typically above the level of mobs in these zones. We'll see what happens in VP now, that may change.

If you have the spare plat (which I don't) then upgrading will give you a slight increase in DPS (or whatever that CA gives), but based on in-raid experience, poor power efficieny, and poor cost versus improvement, I will save my plat to buy the masters.

An exception, as I mentioned earlier and KFizz reiterated ... don't "upgrade" the raid-wide buff to AD3 if you have the old master. The AD3 is worse.

Meiune · 01-15-2008, 08:06 PM

agreed. I was basically mastered out T7 and there are not many T8 A3's worth the cost to upgrade. I'm personally holding out for the masters unless the pricing comes down.

Cirth · 01-16-2008, 09:33 AM

I just upgraded the lvl 57-60 spell with adep3 t8, and i dont find it worth anything to go ad3 T8, the upgrade is slim or non existant and some are even lower ...

For the to hit of master i didnt found any difference :o (i have some t8 master and it hit at the same ratio as t7 master)