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Old 09-20-2008, 02:09 AM  
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Well, I am happy to report that my DPS has increased significantly thanks to the responses to my previous thread (Pitiful excuse for a Monk). However, I have a question. I am now told by my guild that basically the Monk is a class with very little value to a raid. In essence, they claim that our DPS is so low and our utility value is so meager that a raid never really needs more than one monk (they include bruisers in this as well) on a raid.

Is this truly the case? Have I wasted all of these years working on a character that is considered no real value to a raiding guild? Have any of you faced such opinions or how does the Monk community feel about being devalued in such a manner? I have basically been told if I want to raid I need to roll a "useful" class. Thoughts?

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They are stupid.
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:26 AM  
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Great raid buff, Avoidance check for the MT, awesome damage and tanking potential, yeah i think a monk is pretty useless ;)
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:10 PM  
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yurn has it right, monks provide an awesome raid buff and util. Now, as for bruisers and Shadowknights in raid....
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They are stupid.
These three words sum the situation up perfectly.
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Old 09-21-2008, 02:46 AM  
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There was a day when a typical player on a monk wasn't really needed in a raid. A good player behind the monk was welcome though... Now that we have the previously mentioned raid wide buffage...it's easier finding a slot.
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Old 09-21-2008, 03:03 AM  
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Well, I am happy to report that my DPS has increased significantly thanks to the responses to my previous thread (Pitiful excuse for a Monk). However, I have a question. I am now told by my guild that basically the Monk is a class with very little value to a raid. In essence, they claim that our DPS is so low and our utility value is so meager that a raid never really needs more than one monk (they include bruisers in this as well) on a raid.

Is this truly the case? Have I wasted all of these years working on a character that is considered no real value to a raiding guild? Have any of you faced such opinions or how does the Monk community feel about being devalued in such a manner? I have basically been told if I want to raid I need to roll a "useful" class. Thoughts?
I bet I could out dps most of your raid if not all. Monks can tank epics. Extra avoidance for the MT and melee/casting haste for the entire raid force. You guild leader is a dumbass and does not know how to make up a raid force.
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:32 AM  
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Your raidleader didnt say that monks should not raid. He said:

"a raid never really needs more than one monk"

And that is actualy right. Your raid should have a monk, but more then one is not needed.

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Old 09-21-2008, 02:03 PM  
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You guild leader is a dumbass and does not know how to make up a raid force.
Incorrect. The leaders of my guild are really great people. The raid leaders are also good people and they know the game etc. My only question was really is there truly no benefit to having more than one monk on a raid? I have seen on other boards and forums where monks are referred to as "low quality DPS" and thus where raids are concerned, "True DPS" such as scouts are preferred. Kind of sucks that since I am a monk and my guild already has probably the most uber monk on the server raiding with them, that I will not see in the inside of any of the cool zones until they go on farming status. More disapointing is that I will never be able to actually share in the moment of a first time kill or guild victory. I will have to be content to cheer from the sidelines.
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Does any raid need more than one class? No. However there is no reason you can't run with two monks. They can tank and dps extremely well.
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