GU 51 Monk Changes - Page 3

hoke4lif84 · 01-08-2009, 04:19 PM

I dont know about yall but with a 10% decrease in hate gain and the deaggro proc on our offensive stance and the deaggro on the CA's it will make it next to impossible for us to get aggro if a tank loses it.

I mean yea we got peel for a quick 10 seconds and the various taunts that TSO gave us to move us up the hate list, but with that much deaggro increase and very little dps increase that has got to be a concern.

When I raid I always want my place on the hate list to be near the top so that mobs dont go killin off scouts and mages before I can move my finger over to hit the peel macro.

O and does anyone know how the TSO AA 's for the stances affect these if any at all?

Couch · 01-08-2009, 04:26 PM

Just fyi, you have 10% decrease in hate gain but you don't get deagro proc in offensive stance unless you have mongoose stance in monk EoF aa.

damager · 01-08-2009, 08:47 PM

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Thus making AE melee proc much more dps over a simple 300-500ish proc.

Simple 300-500 proc that procs 16% makes a difference this is a parse from a TSO raid mob...

TYPE DAMAGE EXT DPS AVERAGE MIN HIT MAX HIT RESIST HITS CRITHITS SWINGS TO HIT % CRIT %
All 650787 6573.61 1436.62 40 4887 All 453 224 471 96.18 49%
crush 405391 4094.86 2502.41 549 3884 crushing 162 135 175 92.57 83%
Five Rings 23927 241.69 1196.35 800 2369 crushing 20 20 20 100.00 100%
hemotoxin 19556 197.54 674.34 523 966 poison 29 1 29 100.00 3%
Horse Kick 17528 177.05 2504.00 2196 3066 slashing 7 7 7 100.00 100%
Rising Dragon 17260 174.34 821.90 506 2178 crushing 21 21 21 100.00 100%
Morning Star 16760 169.29 1862.22 1614 2381 crushing 9 9 10 90.00 100%
Rising Phoenix 12545 126.72 4181.67 2811 4887 crushing 3 2 3 100.00 67%
Stifling Palm 12419 125.44 3104.75 2592 3623 crushing 4 4 4 100.00 100%
Biting Cobra 10575 106.82 3525.00 2967 4008 crushing 3 2 3 100.00 67%
Crane Twirl 10389 104.94 799.15 551 1188 crushing 13 3 13 100.00 23%
Blade Chime 10339 104.43 295.40 225 368 disease 35 0 35 100.00 0%
Serene Strike 10133 102.35 1266.63 978 1934 crushing 8 1 8 100.00 13%
Velium Palm 9736 98.34 3245.33 2901 3669 cold 3 3 3 100.00 100%
Vampire Bane 7542 76.18 628.50 491 641 divine 12 0 13 92.31 0%
Crypt's Revenge 7373 74.47 526.64 375 882 disease 14 3 14 100.00 21%
Greater Goblin Bane 7342 74.16 815.78 766 822 mental 9 0 10 90.00 0%
Tackling Cougar 7313 73.87 2437.67 2214 2646 crushing 3 3 3 100.00 100%
Mantis Bolt 6592 66.59 313.90 176 419 piercing 21 1 21 100.00 5%
Velium Talon 6339 64.03 2113.00 1906 2423 cold 3 3 3 100.00 100%
Rancid Decay 5277 53.30 753.86 595 866 poison 7 0 7 100.00 0%
Dragonfire 4441 44.86 246.72 204 371 heat 18 0 18 100.00 0%
Jolting Strike 4158 42.00 259.88 165 357 magic 16 0 16 100.00 0%
Divine Strike 3336 33.70 370.67 300 488 divine 9 1 9 100.00 11%
Septic Feedback 2727 27.55 545.40 531 555 disease 5 0 5 100.00 0%
Eagle Spin 2538 25.64 1269.00 1104 1434 crushing 2 2 2 100.00 100%
Combination 2098 21.19 699.33 642 785 crushing 3 0 3 100.00 0%
Fiery Feedback 1862 18.81 232.75 40 432 heat 8 0 9 88.89 0%
Pressure Point 1803 18.21 601.00 462 794 crushing 3 2 3 100.00 67%
Claw 1734 17.52 1734.00 1734 1734 slashing 1 1 2 50.00 100%
pierce 1520 15.35 1520.00 1520 1520 piercing 1 0 1 100.00 0%
Mantis Star 234 2.36 234.00 234 234 piercing 1 0 1 100.00 0%

It out Damaged multiple CA's. 16% 300-500 or 4 times a minute 600-1200 dunno which is greater? maybe they will cancel each other out?

And dont laugh at my 6-7kdps parses, I know you all prolly have VP gear and all but for a monk with only instance gear except my weapons I do OK.

Couch · 01-10-2009, 02:45 AM

Did you guys notice that our offensive stance on test server only increases 48 weapon skills and on live servers, it's 55?

I have bugged it and please do it when you are on test server.

Herme · 01-10-2009, 10:28 AM

That's weird, I noticed it on the screenies here, but the screenshots on the official forums shows the weapon skills as being 53. What's the difference?

Only stance I have mastered on my monk in test is defensive so I can't check on my own.

Rythalian · 01-10-2009, 01:55 PM

For me, Flow Like the Wind M1 is 53 on test and 66 on live.

Blanka · 01-10-2009, 03:44 PM

Could be aa's making the difference?

Apheod · 01-10-2009, 04:40 PM

flow like wind shows 66 if you have 5 points into the off stance shadows aa, on live. its 53 with 5 in on test?

T-Assassin · 01-10-2009, 05:05 PM

shouldn't the WIS be increased in Defensive, and reduced in Offensive?

Def- 92STR 145WIS
Off- 97STR 137WIS

not much, i know, but more wisdom in offensive just really don't make much sense to me.

Rythalian · 01-10-2009, 05:16 PM

Not AA's.

I have five points in the offensive stance skill bonus increases on both Test and Live.