General monk aa setup discussion and TSO brawler and monk tree list

Couch · 01-28-2009, 02:11 AM

The TSO brawler tree:

The TSO monk tree:

The TSO monk CAs without spending point on TSO tree:

The TSO monk CAs with spending 5 points on TSO tree:

I got those pictures on the test server since we can respec our aa unlimited there. When I captured the pictures, I was self buffed with master 1 offensive stance and raid wide buff. I also have 8 points on agi 3. The dps boost with TSO tree is not impressive. It is still a good reference for us.

Couch · 06-02-2009, 01:46 AM

The latest thread of monk aa setup is http://www.eq2flames.com/monks/40467...setup-tso.html

For new monks, the old thread of monk aa setup is still good to read.

For veterans, TSO is released over half an year. Most of us have 200aa and most TSO content have been explored. You may have some different opinions of how to setup monk aa than before. Welcome to post it in this thread and share with your fellows.

KFizzle · 06-02-2009, 01:14 PM

I'm just saying, this was totally a cocktease of a thread.

I was hoping to see some specs of what you had, and instead i'm pointed to a thread blanka made in January. I know a lot of the stuff is 'self explanatory' but unlike you and alot of other monks, i'm not at 200aa yet (180, just made it my main not long ago) and i'm still trying to debate where i should put points.

Basically myself, i end up in kind of a more defensive orientated 'hybrid' spec so i can have altruism on the MT (something our RL likes me to do, so i do it), and since I occasionally have to either OT (I say that like i dont LOVE to, but i do), or pick up adds or the name if the MT Goes down. I have a offensive spec on my mirror but i don't use it because I normally don't have the time to CoQ then CoGH then take the flag and catch back up, from when i'd need to be in my defensive spec.

I'm still trying to think what I want my 'end specs' to be, and well ... it would help to have some alternatives to what I already know. And BTW my 'thoughts' and wondering is less about the Brawler tree than it is about the Monk and Shadow's tree's and how my point's "should" be spent there (depending on 'role').

Edit Note: To add to my thought, like are the increases to taunt speed/resistability/strength in both Shadows and Monk tree's worthwhile? Should I not even think about them? How about the increase to Peel, that seems useful to me although I haven't put points in it (yet at least, but I am thinking I'm running out of Shadows points).

Couch · 06-02-2009, 01:27 PM

First, that thread was made by me in Feb, not blanka made in Jan. I collected different setup from threads and made that thread.

Second, there isn't an universal setup for any monk since gear difference is huge from player to player. Not to say, the role of every player in group or raid may be different.

Last, if you have any question about how to setup your aa, the best way is to specifically describe your needs/role/gear so that veterans can give you suggestions.

Couch · 06-02-2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KFizzle

Edit Note: To add to my thought, like are the increases to taunt speed/resistability/strength in both Shadows and Monk tree's worthwhile? Should I not even think about them? How about the increase to Peel, that seems useful to me although I haven't put points in it (yet at least, but I am thinking I'm running out of Shadows points).

For your first question, is taunt speed/resistability/strength worthwhile? Imo, no. Taunt is too weak on live server and it's unworthy to spend aa on it. However, if taunt was changed to fighter revamp on test server before, then the answer is yes.

For your 2nd question, peel focus, the answer is NO. Why? It's simple because peel, target lock part, didn't work on TSO raids. Why do you spend aa on a broken skill?

Unless you want to reduce the reuse timer on peel, hate position part still works. But 5 sec per aa is so lame and worhtless imo.

KFizzle · 06-02-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch

First, that thread was made by me in Feb, not blanka made in Jan. I collected different setup from threads and made that thread.

http://www.eq2flames.com/monks/40467...setup-tso.html
01-01-2009, 08:45 AM
Blanka

I'm not knocking your work on SS's and the like but you didnt talk about AA Spec really in this thread, the thread you linked does and it was started by blanka in 1-1-09 according to the timestamp.

Couch · 06-02-2009, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KFizzle

http://www.eq2flames.com/monks/40467...setup-tso.html
01-01-2009, 08:45 AM
Blanka

I'm not knocking your work on SS's and the like but you didnt talk about AA Spec really in this thread, the thread you linked does and it was started by blanka in 1-1-09 according to the timestamp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch

We have an old sticky thread about monk aa setup and it is obsolete. Let's share our idea about how to spec monk AA in TSO.

Write down your spec or post scree shots of Kos, eof and tso trees are all welcome.

PS: I moved useful posts from the link below:
http://www.eq2flames.com/monks/38190...monk-aa-s.html

Enough said.

KFizzle · 06-02-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch

For your first question, is taunt speed/resistability/strength worthwhile? Imo, no. Taunt is too weak on live server and it's unworthy to spend aa on it. However, if taunt was changed to fighter revamp on test server before, then the answer is yes.

For your 2nd question, peel focus, the answer is NO. Why? It's simple because peel, target lock part, didn't work on TSO raids. Why do you spend aa on a broken skill?

Unless you want to reduce the reuse timer on peel, hate position part still works. But 5 sec per aa is so lame and worhtless imo.

And thats beautiful answers if you ask me, i wasnt sure on the taunt stuff, as i THOUGHT it wasnt worth it but i was thinking if thats just my imagination, i can 'come to grips with reality' (i once was set on a 2 handed spec for my zerk back in the day, although i did put up great dips with the Vrak Claw club).

As for Peel, I have more questions then, I thought it wasnt working right (not locking the fucking target on me unless i'm like practically near the top of the hate list anyway, if i die then get revived and try to peel to give the raid time to recover while the MT is being rebuffed, i cant get the mob for shit), is it something they are 'aware of' and are fixing, or do they say working as intended (IE another spell that doesnt work on epics which i dont think it says anything of the kind in the description). I wasn't sure if either I 'needed' the AA in it to get it to work better or if it was my imagination (didnt know about 'strike through' till it fucked my Tsunami like 4 times in a row and i started asking about it).

KFizzle · 06-02-2009, 01:59 PM

I cant SS it right now, and ill prolly forget later...but i will try to remember for later (kinda crazy 'all over the place' right now), i am going to 'clean it up' a bit when its not gunna cost me an arm and a leg (10p per change right now, and i'm broke, just bought the ethernaught shit).

Couch · 06-02-2009, 02:02 PM

For peel, they are aware this problem but they won't fix it until no body knows. Aeralik did post a reply on the thread of why cry of the warrior didn't work (warrior version of peel). His excuse is that cry of warrior might be resisted that's why it didn't work.

However, peel is unresisable as rescue. There is no excuse of being resisted for peel.

It's broken and it's intended by SoE.