Monk AA setup in TSO

Blanka · 01-01-2009, 09:45 AM

OK so here goes posting my aa's as they stand now. First up here are the aa's I use when offensive I have included the persona stats as well since depending on gear certain aa's seem better then others.

Blanka · 01-01-2009, 10:02 AM

And defensive. Obviously people might want to switch stuff up depending on gear, but this is what I pretty much go with for now.

Trumak · 01-01-2009, 08:34 PM

I'd love to.

Offensive:

kos-

You take craneflock over chi lol and that is supposed to be more steady? Tell your troubs not to be worthless and get a jc for chi and grats 5 minute reuse. And since there are hardly any ae encounters in raids craneflock is just retarded since we are so high on DA anyways. Thus allowing you to switch 3 points from cranetwirl which does trash dps to crit.

eof-

Then you put points in external calm instead of filling out the accuracy of your ca's? Maybe your healers suck if you need that in your offensive build lol..

tso-

This has already been said but I mean just wow you put more than 10 points in the general line. 4 more mount speed ftw. Just amazing.

Defensive:

kos-

Lol @ 8 points in parry. You do realize the cap is 520 and easily attained with a dirge right? Then you get altruism and not chi ftw lol. Chi is amazing on incoming named when you are tanking for save ability reuse and initial aggro.

eof-

You max out dragonbreath, taunts, cobra circle and get evade check instead of getting ANY of the ca improvements. I mean you drop the wisdom line yet put more points into ae stuff makes no sense lol.

tso-

Hey you only spent 10 points in general this time well done! 5 spent in defensive stance is stupid the gains are minimal and contested avoidance is shitty anyways. You could move the points to reuse of heal or peel.

The best part of all this is it is stupid easy to pick a pure dps spec or a pure tank spec rather than a hybrid and yet you failed lol. So yea you're dumb.

gungo · 01-02-2009, 12:35 AM

dps build i prefer

4/4/8/6/2 str
4/4/8 agi
4/4/5 wis
4/4/8 int

Mostly because crit is the most important dps stat especially after tso changes. I gain more from chi for 30 sec duration 6 min recast then crane flock 16 sec duration 2min 41sec recast. Then again chi timed with knockout and the haste from chi does more for a bruiser. Also i prefer the uncontested avodiance of the str line over 200 extra hitpoints from wis. finally crane twirl and crane flock does so very little dps for me on parses. Crane flock only hits 4 targets in melee range that are directly in front of me. aoe auto atk which is all i really get from crane flock since raid buffed i am in 90+% DA isnt the god mode many brawlers think it is. The reason we want aoe auto atk over crane twirl is because crane twirl is shit for dps.

defense build

4/4/8/8/2 str
4/4/8/6/2 agi
4/4/8/3 int

Its close to your build, i am overcapped on defense and prolly should move 4 points to baton flurry and I generally have a dirge if i am tanking unless someone doesnt log on. I mostly have it that way because altruism can be useful in a pure tank build. But then again i am rarely in this pure tank build.

The bottom line is your aa's sometimes need to be adjusted for each individual's raid setup and need. Your main issue is they don't give you a dirge to tank. Which likely means your not tanking often, and dirges help tank so much its not just the stone skin or parry but the melee skill buff and hate. Just my 2 cents.

Braydon · 01-02-2009, 01:04 AM

I've always been partial to a mix of dps and tanking instead of doing two builds, but leaning more towards the dps side of the Monk

My aa's are STR 4 4 8 8 1
WIS 4 4 8 8 1
and INT 4 4 8 1

That set up there allows me to parse 7-8k np in normal zones
trash in palace I can get 10k

I have a habit of ripping the mobs off of the tank or OT so I do beef my defensive up a little to help with the bouncing aggro.

I can't really comment on TSO tree because I'm lvling a troub for the guild so I really havent had time to do a lot with the tree. But with my set up I'm usually top 5 dps at all times with the ocassional top parse, and I really don't have problems picking up adds and keeping them if my healers know whats going on.

Apheod · 01-04-2009, 07:29 AM

i ran chi for a few days and didnt really like it. the haste and dps was wasted on me since i'm pretty much always capped on both in raid. i was getting more zw dps out of crane flock for sure, and my da sits around 65-70 in raid most of the time. it was nice for grabbing agro... but i dont have any trouble getting and holding agro with my brawler spec, which is the same as blanka's non-altruism spec, and was before you posted it on here before you start puffing your chest out. after the live update, i'll give it another shot with the changed crane twirl and see how it works out. granted, i never bothered coordinating chi with a jc or roa.

you're right, i didnt post my spec here because no matter what it was, you'd tear it apart and go on and on for pages about how fucking retarded i was because i put a couple points someplace you didn't... like mount speed. thanks for showing me the uberness of that, i spent 10p to respec and throw 5 points into mount speed. seriously... your beef with me is that i say you're an asshole. you are, get the fuck over it.

heres how my other 2 trees are setup. the last 7 aa will go into capping heal in the shadow line until i get the 4 piece bonus, then the other 3 will probably go to the rescue reuse, and 5 points into the peel reuse. after the live update, i'll probably try and siphon 5 points from somewhere into the taunt buffs in that line. the 1 point into taunt was a fuckup at the end of specing my monk tree, i would have just put both points into body if i'd been thinking.

i'd be interested to see your hybrid setup braydon.

flame away blanka...

Mowster · 01-11-2009, 01:11 PM

After spending a moderate amount of time checking out suggestions for AA setup(which did take some wading through the my monks better than your bruiser I hate you noob dweeb WAAAHHH posts), I decided that the setup I have now works well enough for me at this time. Point-I am not a "raiding monk". I solo and group with the occaisional raid thrown in. So being ultra uber isn't a factor and it won't insult me a bit if someone calls me a dick and tells me I'm not uber lol. What I did do was study and contemplate, then try out, the stats that the brawler AA's I chose give me. I have a nice avoidance, my dps ain't to shabby, and I have good enough survivability that I don't spend a small fortune on repair costs. I am very rarely broken even in a raid.

My brawler AA is set up like this:

Str-4 4 8 6 1
Agi-4 4 8 6 1
Int-4 4 8 6

I went with the strength line again when they allowed useability with weapons. Up until level 70 I fought bare hands anyway so it is a line that I was already familiar with. Chi is nice, and I took it because I had enough points to basically. But the main reason I chose the str line was the damage and avoidance. Agi I followed for reuse speed and altruism, which can come in handy in groups, especially pick up groups where everyone is not so familiar with the others styles of playing. Int I chose for the crit and avoidance.

My mirror set up follows the wisdom line instead of the str, with some points in sta as well, and I sometimes switch to that for a raid or a heavy grouped mob area, but for soloing and most groups I stick with the setup above.

I realize that there are those who disagree with my choices and that's fine, the whole idea of the game is to have fun with it. I figured I would post these stats for other monks who group and solo more than raid.

As for the whole should a bruiser be the leader of a monk board question, I betrayed from a bruiser to a monk about 45 levels ago. I didn't betray to be more uber, I betrayed because I thought I would enjoy playing a monk more, and I have and still do(even though they really did knock us down hard with the expansion)and I wouldn't betray back if they gave us batons and pompoms to cheer on the other tanks. Though I have been a bruiser and seen both sides, I wouldn't want to lead a bruiser board. I play a monk and that means I know how to play a monk, but not necessarily a bruiser anymore. A leader should be someone who knows the class AND practices what they know. A lot of monks have jumped ship because "bruisers are the uber brawler now" well guess what...there will be more LU's and more expansions and half of them will probably wind up jumping back at some point lol. But until then, let the bruisers lead the bruisers, and let the monks lead the monks.

Rowrkin · 01-12-2009, 09:03 PM

I have played my monk for 2 years. I have not had any help i just found out about this site and started reading some of the shit that goes on. and i find my AA lines are close to most though i don't use as much of the defense aa lines. I put it all into the dps. And yet some of you say yer parses are close to 10k. This i find hard to understand. even with a Dirge and Enchanter weither it be a Illy or Conj. i find i could only get to mabey 7k. My timers are all good using ACT. So i still do not know what im doing wrong that im not parsing as high. mabey one of you can enlighten me.

Brawler Tree

Str - 7,6,8,4,1
Wis - 4,8,8,4,1
Int - 4,4,8

Monk tree i have 5 points in all CA's 3 in mongoose 5 in heal and both Will of The wise

TSO tree i am still figuring out.

Hidge · 01-13-2009, 10:51 AM

I was recently asked to set up a full tanking spec for my monk for raiding purposes. The end result, quite different from my normal hybrid spec, looks as follows - some of the choices are in expectation of the changes on test, feel free to ask:

KoS:
Str 4-4-8-8-2
Agi 4-5-8-8-2
Int 4-4-8

(I may ditch some of agi, agi 4 and altruism specifically, and go for the taunt improvements after LU 51. Depends on how holding aggro without works out)

EoF:
All kicks, all Jabs, combination (31 points)
Heal (5)
Enhance: Body Like Mountain (5)
Enhance: External Calm (5)
Enhance: Iron stance (5)
Enhance: Tsunami (5)
Superior Riposte (1)
Enhance: Tranquil Vision (5)
Enhance: Full Moon (3)
Enhance: Infuriation (5)

tSO:
General:
Hearty contitution (5)
Whatever (prolly runspeed) (5)

Fighter:
Swinging Strike (5)
Battle Hardening (5)

Brawler:
Tactical Precision (5)
Blazing Cobra (5)
Deflecting Blow (5)
Aversion (5)
Inner Focus (1)

Monk:
Bite of the Cobra (4)
Focused followup (1)
Mitigating Blows (5)
Meditative healing (5)
Bob and Weave (2)
Hidden Openings (2)

Depending on aggro problems (or lack thereof) this may need a lot of adjustment come LU 51. Right now, though, properly buffed, I should be fine.

Couch · 02-17-2009, 02:36 AM

We have an old sticky thread about monk aa setup and it is obsolete. Let's share our idea about how to spec monk AA in TSO.

Write down your spec or post scree shots of Kos, eof and tso trees are all welcome.

PS: I moved useful posts from the link below:
http://www.eq2flames.com/monks/38190...monk-aa-s.html