KFizzle

Well then i obviously should have checked your link then shouldnt i? LoL


But anyway, yeah i mean really a lot is group set up, gear, and aa ... if you dont have the gear and AA then make sure its a group set up to give you good amounts of hate. Don't listen to those silly troubs who are like "I'm better than a dirge for your group" cause they arent! fucking troubs always trying to get into my groups instead of dirges ... sorry uh, yeah but like its already been said try to get a dirge + a coercer or swash (or all 3) and you'll see agro increase dramatically and survivability increase exponentially cause of the dirge for you (stoneskin and parry) and the dirge +coercer for the healer(s) in your group.

Honestly, I still tank even with shitty makeup groups and stuff, and do pretty well with agro unless its great Dips and a shitty setup. if its real shitty like that then i really try to keep reminding myself we're so buff dependent that its not my fault.

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Rasttan

Your AA is set up with to much emphasis on defense, all the AA you
stuck in your taunts would be much better served enhancing
your dps which will create alot more hate for you. Get the
crits in the Int line drop the stam line totally, take all the
points out of any taunt increaser in any tree or line and
put them in dps, get 8 points in ambidexterity Re-use time
allows your CA's to refresh even faster.

Get mantis jabs maxed its our hardest hitting CA the faster it can
be recast the better. Enhance all your kicks those aa increase
there damage.

Get points in tactical precision it will add a 5% accuracy bonus to
your group/raid buff which will help your hit rate.

You should be able to use mid stance in all instances and still
put out good dps and have very high survivability.

Do you time your auto attacks to maximize your dps?

Theres a few other AA choices you should change but definitly
drop all taunt stuff for more dps it will boost your hate alot more
than taunts which should only ever be used on pull or if you have
absolutley nothing else to hit.

Wrathful

In addition to what the others said, i'll reinforce the "get your myth" suggestion. As well, people stating that your group setup is crucial is also correct. In addition to a Dirge etc, make sure you pretty much ALWAYS have a Shaman for a healer. Just from my personal experiences of grouping with tons of brawlers who tanked, Shaman usually work best. If it's a Defiler, great, make sure you're seeing their debuffs goin up on the mobs every fight and if they're not... Start chewing them out for it because by not doing it they're making it harder on you as well as themselves.

Just make sure you take a semi decent balanced group in with you and you should find things a bit easier. I hate to say it but grouping with a healer who's JUST gotten to 80 and barely has any of the nice shadow aa bonuses, their epic done etc will do more harm than good. Best off looking for a solid healer that's going to cover your ass for when a hit DOES land. Don't be afraid to ask a healer what their aa etc is like, there are some pretty decent boosts in the Shadow lines that can make things go a fair bit smoother for you and them, saving the rest of the group a headache.

ShearsChi'Man

I didnt read the whole post everything everyone wrote, but tank in offensive, not your combination. Its the healers job to heal you, if there decently they will keep you up, I tank tso all the time with shitty group setups, only way i can keep decent agro is if im in offensive. Give it a shot see what you think!

Bewts

I don't play him much anymore, but I just built a group of support around my monk and I could tank most instances in average gear at best (no raid TSO drops - no fabled/myth) with one healer.

Troub
Dirge
Illy
Coercer
<Strong healer>
Monk

Obviously not the best but my thought was always fuck the RNG kill it as fast as possible giving me the best chance to survive before too many failed RNG checks get in. Pretty hard to top that type of group and I tanked all but the last 2 zones in guk and varsoon.

My preferred healer was a shaman, but I'd take a well played cleric just as well.

aleda

tanking on a monk blows esp. when ur grp is mains with avatar gear and shit lol, but yah myth is like a must. Also pickup the shard off hand its decent 180 top end ? and AA's into DPS not so much the taunts.

damager

Why does Tranquil Forwarning have zero effect on our taunt proc? WTF! Ok monks we are gonna give you 2 taunts that can be resisted the mobs can 1 hit your group members and your primary aggro is a proc that doesnt do anything untill you start hitting the mob directly - now go!

aleda

our proc taunt should be more then it is imo.

Healbringer

As an 80 defiler, I have to say that I would prefer to heal a Monk over just about any other tank, given equal skill and equipment levels. The higher avoidance tends to mesh well with wards. In addition, since wards block damage altogether BEFORE it happens, less mitigation isn't quite as taxing. Hopefully you're shaman as at least 3 pieces of t1 shard armor, though hopefully more of a higher tier. The reason is that every time you get hit, anywhere from 0.8-1.5k damage is done to the mob due to a 3-piece set bonus that adds a damage-shield to our wards (which stacks), and the hate that the damage-shield creates is applied to you :p

In short, grab a Shaman. Makes your life much easier.

Anjin

I prefer tanking on my Monk to my zerker (both mythicalled) tbh unless it's one of the Guk zones Brawlers really do have to fight to keep aggro with multiple mob encounters, so getting your targetting keys sorted is a must. My gear is pretty crap tbh, with the majority being T1, but I still use the juggernaut skullcap for the 5% avoidance for tanking.

I have 3 gear setups, tanking, mid and dps. DPS I'll never use when tanking due to items like ring of animosity, but while tanking I'll try to use mid as much as possible for aggro.

I have 2 AA spec's, one solely focussed on tanking, the other a hybrid. Dodge and weave, tsunami, mountain and stone stance all increase our survivability a tremendous amount, and tbh, with decent dps, heroic mobs should be down before these are used up.

As mentioned above, shammy's are perfect for brawlers as mitigation doesn't count for damage taken by wards.

As far as epics are concerned, I had no problem with survivability or aggro with tanking PotAO trash and the 1st named(s) with my crappy gear - yes they are pretty gimp mobs, but hey-ho, gotta start somewhere!. The key is using what skills you have to the max. Trash was mid stance, and named were defensive stance. Trash did sometimes involve multiple encounters, which needed to be locked down - peel is great for locking them down while you concentrate on other mob. Aggro wasn't a problem with only a couple of player deaths, too much dps on incoming and a spike.

Once I get my gear up to T3/T4, I'll hopefully be on the bigger stuff!

I've just joined a guild where I'm fortunate enough to have my monk as main again (been 2 yrs), so he's always been low down in the pecking order for shards. The joy of shard farming again!