Fabricius

I am sure there is variance with everyone but my AA's are almost solely on Tanking. I noticed a huge leap in tanking ability from tier 2 shard armor to more and more raid gear and from 140 AA's to getting end line abilities even though i still hate meditative healing.

Now I have 4 set tier 4 and countless extra situational gear. I don't have any problem tanking at all. Though when I had just tier 2 shard armor it was difficult. It was possible but not really that fun.

As for set ups I got a full tank spec and a full dps spec. Never use the DPS spec. I have 3 gear set ups one full defensive, one full offensive and one offensive minus choker and jewel.

I have tanked fine in palace in full offensive, its all how well you know your healer and there capabilities. Monks best aspect is adjusting from the situations they are in. Haven't played a class that can swing from one extreme to another as easily.

With the extreme Avoid we are capable of I believe monk's can tank very closely in ability to any other equally geared tank. Whether people want to test it or not.

Anjin

Apart from avoidance being fucked up, given the right gear choices, we can tank single mobs nearly as well as our tin can counterparts. The problem is our AE aggro control is nada. I have a zerker and one of their TSO endline abilities is a blue dmg ca that increases hate position! For a zerker? Do they need it? Nope. Do brawlers (esp monks) need it, too damned right. What do we get? I single target aggro position increaser!

The whole TSO line, although very handy for monks, is gimp in comparison to say the zerker line. Compare the Zerker TSO to the Crusader TSO lines - OUCH!

Fabricius

Yes overall our ae control is near nada. Though I have little problem adjusting the order I do mobs and have what I need up to AE tank and hold aggro off most ae dps'rs. Though Avoid really does suck with multiple mobs. :-(

I would love to see our single target endline attack that increases 5 positions changed. I don't need that for single target. I would love to have a more AE based taunt for it or a higher dmg and less position increaser CA. I hate using it when dps'ing even though its one of our more powerful single hits. Insta aggro and if I'm set for dps I can die fast.

Overall though tanking I have little problem in any zone with a decent group including Outer Guk.

Now playing my guard makes me enjoy the AE potential on my Monk. LOL

ellyh

brawlers can tank and quite well. at least in shard zones, my experience beyond those is limited.

maybe you need to look at your healers. there are an awful lot of stupid and lazy ones out there.

my monk is only 25 so i can't say what your doing wrong. but my main is a templar and the few times i've had a brawler tank for me have been very smooth runs and it hasn't been any harder to heal. different, but not harder.