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Old 06-11-2009, 07:03 PM  
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Default so freiking sick of not being able to tank

What is it?

is it my gear? skill? class? what the hell is it? Im a semi-casual player youve probably seen me around. i've had 90% terrible experiences tanking. and everytime i go in optimistically, but fail terribly.

here is my gear..

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in tank gear, i get to 84.7% avoidance, and 48%ish mitigation.

in dps gear, I get 77% avoidance, and 43% mit

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and in a shard group, in dps gear i drop like a hat, but i can keep aggro on single targets. (not group well)

in a shard group, in tank gear i dont drop like a hat, but cant keep aggro and my dps literally goes down the shitter (1.5k if im lucky)

what the hell am i doing wrong, I get so discourages from playing most of the time. So I rarely do now.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:16 PM  
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Default Re: so freiking sick of not being able to tank

lol, why did you post this 2 times?

Anyways, what is your group setup? it, from what i've learned, can really depend on the group setup of classes.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:54 PM  
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Default Re: so freiking sick of not being able to tank

Brawler have issues and no doubt you have come to face them.

Our aoe agro is dismal and our ability to tank is lower then other tanks. Our dps is ok but we cant dps well in defensive with tank gear.

Sadly the only real way to compensate for this is through ALOT of gear and AA's.

In generic mastercrafted, tier 1 gear you will have issues tanking just like you described. In tier 2 gear it gets better and in teir 3 it gets alot better. Also your mythical will help alot. But the fabled version and a GOOD offhand will do the job. Not sure that helps but the reasons your having issues is why so many brawlers have come and gone from this class.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:08 PM  
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Default Re: so freiking sick of not being able to tank

A dirge, coeorcer, and swashy are your friends. Remember that when making a group. Stay away from Warlocks and Wizards unless you have the hate. Our AE aggro sucks big time. So save your AE abilities for group encounters and use them on pull.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:25 PM  
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You need mitigation jewelries for more mitigation. There are some nice mitigation jewelries from instances and open dungeons such as the Hardened Clay Bracelet (124 mit) from sebilis, Obelisk Powered Ring of Defense (243 mit) from OOA, Bracelet of Deprecation (164 mit) from Crucible, etc.. Or you can buy raid loots such as Howling hoop (208 mit), Irritating wool Cincture (205 mit), Black heart, Ring of replusing (124) from SoH.

Beyond gear, you need to use life saving tools smartly. Also, don't forget to use our two temp mitigation buffs, they are very useful in tanking.

PS: I closed your double post so people can reply on the same thread.
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Riposte 17%+Parry 12%+Min Deflection 43.7% = Total Uncontested Avoid 72.7%
Since when did we start running uncontested avoid through the avoid checks jackass? Are you making up new rules now? Uncontested avoid has ALWAYS been the total added up.

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Old 06-11-2009, 11:51 PM  
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Default Re: so freiking sick of not being able to tank

I have hardened clay bracelet.

Is mit > than avoidance? I would be replacing items that give me +5 def, parry etc.
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:06 AM  
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To a degree yes since defense/parry/deflection is easy to cap and not all that great. But it depends really what level is the item with mit 80? how much mit? Which has better hitpoints? How much parry/deflection/defense?

Items have so many stats now it rarely is just 5 defense vs 175 mititgation.

Put it this way right now i use the +77 mitigation augment over the +7 parry augment because i am capped on parry.

But i use the parry % wrists over the +77 mitigation wrists becuase the wrists are uncontested parry.
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:16 AM  
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Default Re: so freiking sick of not being able to tank

I like the suggestions, and ill definitely keep them in mind.

But it's not exactly a happy ending to the sob story, I guess I wanted to come here and be told im doing something dumb. But it looks like for the most part im going to suck at tanking until I get my myth/maxed AA/ raid gear.

/pout
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Old 06-12-2009, 08:57 AM  
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Default Re: so freiking sick of not being able to tank

well you could also help it with T2 shard gear
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Old 06-12-2009, 01:12 PM  
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I have full t2 shard gear
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