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08-17-2009, 08:43 PM
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yesyesyes
Character: Lets
Guild: Throw
Server: Down
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Questions!
Haven't played in a long time, just came back, have a few questions for you all.
Are items like this http://www.lootdb.com/eq2/examine/-191176872.jpg with the +X Extra Riposte Chance a straight uncontested avoidance? Also, does it have the same chance of parrying from other quadrants if so? Do they stack with adornments like the http://www.lootdb.com/eq2/examine/196907744.jpg . Similarily, do the +3% Riposte adornments and the +3% Parry adornments stack (atleast concerning non frontal quadrants) or are they seperate checks?
Last edited by Drytan; 08-18-2009 at 12:18 AM.
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08-18-2009, 12:26 AM
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yesyesyes
Character: Lets
Guild: Throw
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Re: Questions!
More questions... Does the 50% strikethru on mythical have to make a check on every avoidance ability before it goes thru ( ie dodge, parry, deflect) or is it straight up 50%. Also does it only strikethru skill checks, or will it also strikethru uncontested (ie will I land 50% of my attacks on some1 with tsunami running) avoid checks.
The Shadows AA line upgrade to our raidwide buff that adds 5% chance to hit. Does this mean that if I usually land 95% of my attacks on suchnsuch mob, that I will now land 100%? Or does it mean I land 95% + (5% of 95)? What is the affect on uncontested avoid, will I land 5% of my attacks on someone with tsunami up?
Prob noob questions, but im lost, help plz
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08-18-2009, 01:00 AM
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Character: Couching
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Re: Questions!
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Originally Posted by Drytan
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Yes, it's uncontested avoidance.
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Originally Posted by Drytan
Also, does it have the same chance of parrying from other quadrants if so? Do they stack with adornments like the http://www.lootdb.com/eq2/examine/196907744.jpg . Similarily, do the +3% Riposte adornments and the +3% Parry adornments stack (atleast concerning non frontal quadrants) or are they seperate checks?
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Yes, it has same chance of parrying from other quadrants.
+3% riposte adornments and +3% parry adornments are separate checks.
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Originally Posted by Blanka
Riposte 17%+Parry 12%+Min Deflection 43.7% = Total Uncontested Avoid 72.7%
Since when did we start running uncontested avoid through the avoid checks jackass? Are you making up new rules now? Uncontested avoid has ALWAYS been the total added up.
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08-18-2009, 01:44 AM
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Character: Gungo
Guild: Elysium
Server: Crushbone
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Re: Questions!
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Originally Posted by Drytan
More questions... Does the 50% strikethru on mythical have to make a check on every avoidance ability before it goes thru ( ie dodge, parry, deflect) or is it straight up 50%. Also does it only strikethru skill checks, or will it also strikethru uncontested (ie will I land 50% of my attacks on some1 with tsunami running) avoid checks.
The Shadows AA line upgrade to our raidwide buff that adds 5% chance to hit. Does this mean that if I usually land 95% of my attacks on suchnsuch mob, that I will now land 100%? Or does it mean I land 95% + (5% of 95)? What is the affect on uncontested avoid, will I land 5% of my attacks on someone with tsunami up?
Prob noob questions, but im lost, help plz
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Strikethrough is a straight up check but it is not effected by Dodge.
Strikethrough goes through uncontested checks.
Accuracy afaik is pretty close to what it states, but i am not 100% sure how it works. Scouts with ~20-25% accuracy and max melee skill are reaching 99% hit rates on most raid mobs (not brawler types). Accuracy does not go through uncontested avoidance.
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08-18-2009, 01:49 AM
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Character: Couching
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Re: Questions!
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Originally Posted by Drytan
More questions... Does the 50% strikethru on mythical have to make a check on every avoidance ability before it goes thru ( ie dodge, parry, deflect) or is it straight up 50%. Also does it only strikethru skill checks, or will it also strikethru uncontested (ie will I land 50% of my attacks on some1 with tsunami running) avoid checks.
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Strikethrough works on parry, block and deflection but not dodge/miss (base avoidance). It works on both contested and uncontested parry, block and deflection.
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Originally Posted by Drytan
The Shadows AA line upgrade to our raidwide buff that adds 5% chance to hit. Does this mean that if I usually land 95% of my attacks on suchnsuch mob, that I will now land 100%? Or does it mean I land 95% + (5% of 95)?
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In ACT, when your hit was avoided by target's contested base avoidance, it shows that your hit was missed. (when it's avoided by uncontested, it shows that your hit was dodged)
Aeralik never posted how it works (at least I never saw it). But from my experience and understanding, it reduces 5% contested base avoidance of your targets.
For example, 20% of your hits were missed when you were attacking a mob. with 5% accuracy, the miss rate will be 15% instead of 20%.
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Originally Posted by Drytan
What is the affect on uncontested avoid, will I land 5% of my attacks on someone with tsunami up?
Prob noob questions, but im lost, help plz
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No.
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Originally Posted by Blanka
Riposte 17%+Parry 12%+Min Deflection 43.7% = Total Uncontested Avoid 72.7%
Since when did we start running uncontested avoid through the avoid checks jackass? Are you making up new rules now? Uncontested avoid has ALWAYS been the total added up.
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Last edited by Couch; 08-18-2009 at 02:15 AM.
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08-20-2009, 01:24 AM
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yesyesyes
Character: Lets
Guild: Throw
Server: Down
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Re: Questions!
Nicee, thanks for the answers, very helpful!
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08-23-2009, 03:21 AM
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D'Haxor D'Fuckxor D'Suckxor
Character: Traxor
Guild: AB
Server: Traxor
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Re: Questions!
Dodge is the 360 degree avoid that all NON BRAWLER mobs have. All brawler mobs have 360 degree parry. So monk myth works very well. Ex) avatar of tranquility
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08-24-2009, 12:30 PM
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Character: damager
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Re: Questions!
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Originally Posted by Traxor
Dodge is the 360 degree avoid that all NON BRAWLER mobs have. All brawler mobs have 360 degree parry. So monk myth works very well. Ex) avatar of tranquility
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So do monk characters have dodge only in the frontal and parry 360 same as the brawler mobs? Basically I carry +20 in Dodge gear for tankin epics to prevent strikethrough would this assumption be correct or would I use +Parry then?
Last edited by damager; 08-24-2009 at 12:33 PM.
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