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Old 08-30-2007, 01:22 PM  
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With the current change of Umbral trap going to be made into a encounter debuff i am getting curious what Aeralik has for mystics in RoK.

By this simple change one of the best single target debuffs becomes a powerfull Encounter debuff. Its a sport for myself and the two defilers to spread the debuff over multiple targets this change makes it a dump down, which i fear the entire spell consolidation will be.

Besides that, Gee, lemme think what was the best asset of a mystic besides healing and stuff...... O yeah thats right debuffing groups of mobs. Thank you for making such a powerfull debuff available to my class, shame theres another class out there that gets it too.

At the moment its already easy to hit the DPS, Autoattack and CA debuff Mitigation caps with just a few different classes on the raid. Please don't dump it down any further.

I FEAR we'll get some more AA to fill the gap between the two shaman classes buffs as the STA < raw HP gonna kick in again at release of RoK.

Let me get it straight, I don't want to be a defiler, i don't want to look like them and i don't like it when they get stripped functionality. I have faith that you guys distinguish us a bit more as the Defiler is turning into a Mystic version2.0

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Old 08-30-2007, 01:37 PM  
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While i reread the above it stroke me how its easy to distinguish us....

Give the two lines we took in the EOF line as standard. Yes thats the buff line and the combat line.

Feel free to design some nice AA lines.... lots of hints on how to make the cure line better in our other posts.... heres a hint. cast on movement
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:51 AM  
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Personally I would rather see the Mystics get a huge class defining dps buff that sets us far apart from the more life giving Defilers. I do just Fine in a MT group healing as the shaman as a Mystic but we should give some kind of ability that creates more agro generation or noticable dps. Make a guild leader decide between agro control vs life as really as it is now If you have both you usually take the defiler in the mt group. The other 4 healer classes are like that INQ=dps vs Templar=Stronger healer/buffer ect.
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make weapon mastery a single target buff and bam, all mystic go to MT group lol
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:59 AM  
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Personally I would rather see the Mystics get a huge class defining dps buff that sets us far apart from the more life giving Defilers. I do just Fine in a MT group healing as the shaman as a Mystic but we should give some kind of ability that creates more agro generation or noticable dps. Make a guild leader decide between agro control vs life as really as it is now If you have both you usually take the defiler in the mt group. The other 4 healer classes are like that INQ=dps vs Templar=Stronger healer/buffer ect.
Their biggest design flaw is giving stuff to certain classes that are always needed / usefull. Sanctuary would be the best example, Voice of the Ancestors is a good second.
The closest thing that comes to Voice of the Ancestors is Immunities but since the rest of that line isn't vital to take only a few mystics have it.

I used it on Avatar of Mischief must admit it wasn't bad but i rather would have had a ability that breaks me out of a control effect when i need it, Although it did give me a 15second window to heal frenzy ;p.

Once the avatar depopped i immediately respec-ed to Combat line as the immunities line is not bad but not great either. The increase ward portion is just craptastic and could use some boosting.

I like the idea of the 40 extra AA points. In shaman line i'll go Str, Agi and Sta gonna have to choose between defensive or offensive (Tribal Rage or Coagulate).

Class defining spells will always be on the edge of making or breaking a class so lets pray they learned from KoS / EoF and bring us some goodies for our healing abilities this time.
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We dont need more debuffs. Its bad enough as it is that we have so many spells to cast during a fight that dont add to either the heal or dps parse....People are always judging your skill by one of the two parses. It forces us to neglect debuffing and just spam the two wards.

"Oh yeah we won and nobody died, but why isnt the mystic topping the parse....." :/

Stupid debuffs

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Old 10-17-2007, 07:46 AM  
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We dont need more debuffs. Its bad enough as it is that we have so many spells to cast during a fight that dont add to either the heal or dps parse....People are always judging your skill by one of the two parses. It forces us to neglect debuffing and just spam the two wards.

&quot;Oh yeah we won and nobody died, but why isnt the mystic topping the parse.....&quot; :/

Stupid debuffs
Dunno what you are on but taking away our debuffs is the final push to run to the betrayal quest giver. The one and only reason mystics can come along is the fact our debuffs stack with the defilers.

Sure we can run a debate about how good torpor and bolster is, but their not. I am a mystic for several years now and seen the defiler > mystic debate so many times.
But fact is it isn't necessary to be successful with a mystic around, other fact is bringing a Defiler is more effective for winning a fight.
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:28 PM  
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We dont need more debuffs. Its bad enough as it is that we have so many spells to cast during a fight that dont add to either the heal or dps parse....People are always judging your skill by one of the two parses. It forces us to neglect debuffing and just spam the two wards.

"Oh yeah we won and nobody died, but why isnt the mystic topping the parse....." :/

Stupid debuffs

It sounds to me like you guys may spend a little too much time analyzing the parses. Your quote is what seems to be the most important. The mob died, and nobody died. I personally believe there is a difference between striving to be better and being too anal.

I can tell you how I do things. Not that it helps at all, just my own personal experience. During trash fights (when I'm not chatting on AIM or MSN, or in tell hell) I stomp all over the DPS parse. During more important fights like harder named, Avatars, or C-Mayong I make sure to keep the OT up, and the rest of the group healed/cured. If they want to bust my balls on why I wasn't topping the heal parse I just ask them what lvl their Mystic is.


All in all, I'm fairly happy with the Mystic as a class. It could use some tweaking or something to differentiate us from the Defilers a little more. I don't care about being in the MT group or not, but I'm enjoying the ability to take my class in two directions at once depending on what is needed at the time.
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We dont need more debuffs. Its bad enough as it is that we have so many spells to cast during a fight that dont add to either the heal or dps parse....People are always judging your skill by one of the two parses. It forces us to neglect debuffing and just spam the two wards.

"Oh yeah we won and nobody died, but why isnt the mystic topping the parse....." :/

Stupid debuffs
I hope this was a joke?
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:12 PM  
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If you're a mystic and you want to feel Important, play on a pvp server like I do...

I'm the only raid mystic my guild has, and since we're qeynos only, no defilers. I always get to top the heal parse
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