Raid mystics - HELP ME PLEEEEASE - Page 2

Malachani · 01-14-2009, 03:27 AM

HOLY NECRO POST!

(but was fun to read nontheless)

Dragmoon · 01-14-2009, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Banditman

Are you the only healer in your group? I didn't see any specific mention of another healer in your group. If you are not the only healer, your numbers will suffer.

In either case, not being in the MT group will push you down the heal parse. If you are the only healer, you can come up some by letting your melee DPS stay in on AE's (if they can do so without getting 1-shotted). Load yourself up with OH / Shelter gear and just heal through.

Honestly though, you're just manipulating the numbers like that. If your RL can't understand that I don't know what to tell you.

also a necro....

BUT Bandit is so right

Drag

Arcanemundi · 01-14-2009, 05:30 PM

I am in the OT group also, and I remember when I moved from MT to OT it initially bumped me one or two positions down on the heal parse, but with ToS I am now at the top two positions of the parse usually. With critical mitigation gear lacking in most raid forces, healers are being forced to pick up the slack for everyone. As a result, I have chosen to start casting ST wards at the MT, and have seen my parses increase as a result. Power should not be an issue for most raid level shamans since there is a ton of power proc gear out there from quests and raid mob drops to solve that, so overriding the MT Defilier's ST ward is not that big of a deal imo. In addition, if you can get your mythical weapon, then power should never be an issue again. I know there are many posts in the Mystic and Defiler forums on healing strats, so it can help some newer Shamans to skim over them all. But in general, some things you can try to increase your parse beyond casting ST wards at the MT would be timing spell casts better and getting better gear.

If you have ProfitUI you can watch your wards health, and when wards get low it usually is a good idea to start casting another ward to replace it. You also need to watch the timers on wards, and when you get to around 10 seconds or less, start casting a new ward. If your wards on the MT are dropping in 5 seconds or less, then just spam your ST ward and both single target heals. Cast Stoicism and Ancestral Sentry when ever it is up. Debuff when you can.

Some important gear to have is the Mythical, Rune Etched Helm, Totem of Ankexfen (sp?), Arm of Erolsi, Shard or Raid Fabled Shoulders, Dark Mail Gauntlets (From The Means to and End HQ), Dreamweave Leggings, and Robe of Alendine, in that order. Half of those items you can get by questing/grouping or buying items off the broker. A good ratio to maintain between Heal Mod and Heal Crit is: 8-12 Heal Mod to 1 Crit. So if you have 600 heal mod, shoot for at least 60-70% crit. Remember to constantly use a Second Sight potion and Scroll of Benediction to get another 7% crit. With raid buffs from a Dirge and Coercer you can get up to a total of 31% crit, so focusing on Heal Mod might not be a bad idea if you are getting Coercive Healing and DKTM buffs.

AA spec should focus on WIS, AGI, STA for Shaman Tree, and Augmentations for Mystic Tree. Max out Ritual. Get Kindred Restoration and respec when you get above 170 points so you can get the healing stance finality in Shadow Line.

Lessah · 01-15-2009, 01:34 AM

Great posts, I don't think I could add any more to it. Let us know how things work out too

Kailenn · 01-15-2009, 11:09 PM

I'm the OT mystic in a raid and usually don't parse that high in a fight with no mobs to offtank. But when the Defiler isn't here and i go to MT group, i top the parse.

This actually really annoys me too, my raid occasionally has a little go about it. In a theoretical fight against a x4 mob with a straight burn and lets say, random aoe attacks, you won't need to do much healing at all. You'll cast what you can on the main tank and ward your group but thats it, and if nobody is dying, then there is no problem and the heal parse is meaningless.

Now the theoretical random aoes. We can only heal to the best of our ability if we can predict the damage and ward it before it happens. If we are in the MT group then this is easy- rock the heal parse. But in a fight against a mob that seems to randomly do damage to people and with you in the OT group, it gets pretty annoying. Unless you have some great reduction in recast time, it will get tricky to keep everyone constantly warded, your group ward will get used up by one or two people leaving the rest defenseless untill it's up again, and when they do take damage, we have notoriously slow heals and will be beaten to it by the other healer. Thus, they parse higher. This may have nothing to do with your situation, just an example of how we may not parse high when not in a group taking consistant, regular damage (ie MT group).

You mentioned DPS- it's good you went melle in your heal spec. If you can, try and get hold of the Star of Malice from shard of hate or a few pieces of the new TSO fabled set, forearms and boots in particular- a fair few things that proc heals and such on melle. And summon the wolf, do the str line... i reccomend it. Even if you dont do str, it's still attacking and doing damage in your name (if you give it your name).

If you dont have one already, get a maintained spells window mod that shows remaining ward amount. I have a tiny one thats the size of the normal window. It is so incredibly valuable to be able to see when a new ward needs to be cast and be able to time things effectively, instead of just spamming spells like many healers do.

On your AAs- my raid spec is str, wis, and agi for the heal crit. Seems to work for me.

But really, screw the heal parse. Its a stupid thing. If you can keep your group alive, get off a few debuffs and cast spells on the MT (bolster, sentry etc.) then you're doing your job.

Lint · 01-16-2009, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kailenn

But really, screw the heal parse. Its a stupid thing. If you can keep your group alive, get off a few debuffs and cast spells on the MT (bolster, sentry etc.) then you're doing your job.

This but with dps added in too.

Malachani · 01-16-2009, 11:39 AM

Why are we still responding to a 9 month old post as if it hasn't already been talked about... 9 months ago!?

Fynne · 01-16-2009, 12:59 PM

Maybe cuz we are bored..

Sharpteath · 01-20-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Melanth

This is an honest plea for help from all you knowledgeable ones out there. Keep all 'asshole' and flame comments to yourself, or at least put them in a funky text color so I can skip em while looking for real replies, tyvm.

My situation: Three weeks ago I was the 2nd fury in a raid guild with too many healers. I was an expert at guarding the door to every t8 raid zone imaginable. I was bored shitless. Then in an amazing stroke of luck - good or bad depending on how you look at it - both of our guild shamans up and quit midraid. I spoke up and poof my mystic alt is now my main.

I spent a few days as the MT shaman while we recruited a new defiler. I was top of the heal parse or a close 2nd to the fully fabled /mastered templar. Not bad I thought, considering my gear was quest gear from RoK and I didnt even have the 'good' instance gear. There were jokes in guild of 'who even needs a defiler!' I was a freakin' hero!

Well, then we get a defiler. I was moved to the normal OT group position. My rank on the heal parse dropped down next to the inquis who thinks he's a zerker. (much love mephiston, you're an awesome inquisi-zerker.) I figure my new role in raid is group wards, stoicism, buffs, debuffs, and dps. The OT group doesn't really get hit much unless shit hits the fan, so I was fine with my rank on the heal parse.

My guild leaders disagree with my take on things.

This is where I need help. I do not know how to raise my heal parse without praying to the mystic gods that the MT or the MT shaman dies. I'm using stoicism, all the ghosty pets, single target wards on the scouts who wait too long to joust AOEs, and on those tough encounters even putting the single ward on the MT (ok'd by the defiler of course). I ward the lifeburning necro. I ward the bruiser with alacrity who ALWAYS steals aggro. I am *constantly* debuffing /buffing /curing/ warding someone but to look at the parse you'd think I was watching tv. And that's WITH time compression.

My gear is half fabled /half shit. My wards are all M1. I have overloaded heal stuff, + heal amount, and +heal crit gear. My AA setup is dps/melee atm, just cause it seemed like the only real option. I don't normally use dogdog, as he's pointless w/out the str line. My standard raid group is Guard, Templar, Illus, Dirge, <random scout usually a brig>, and me.

My DPS is crap atm, cause i'm focusing on spending my dkp on heal gear. Every so often I can hit 2600, but that's with basically no healing, and with how my guild rolls 2600 won't show up on the copy/paste ACT posts.

HELP please! I don't want to go back to guarding the door again!!

Thanks -
Kheera of Crushbone

this is just my opinion and some may or may not agree with me..

Go back down str. You are in the OT group and your dog does "ok" dps with a couple benefits.

Second make sure you work on getting max AA's asap. Quest, or do what ever you need to do but get those bad boys.

Gear will come. Don't miss an SoH raid if you don't already have the helm from there. If your guild isnt doing that zone anymore then do a pickup. (Still bad ass stuff from in there not sure why anyone wouldnt still be doing that content but /shrug) Gear is what is going to allow you to "drive your heal parse" and be able to dps.

Ok, so with that said why are you so worried about a parse? If your group is alive then you need to be working on dps and debuffing. Think about having situational gear for different setups. Personally i have macroed my "Solo heal my group on trak gear" and then my "balls to the wall" dps gear. Trash in SoH, Tomb, VP ect..All "balls to the wall".. OT group with a dirge and any other buffs you might have you should be "ok" on the heal parse and busting some decent numbers on dps while debuffing the shit out of mob.

But, if you just want to bolster your heal parse for shits and giggles pinski is right as ussual. Just tell raid leader you want to solo heal the scout/mage dps group and tell them to all put on their chokers.

Or, explain to your raid leader why he is a dumbass for stressing a heal parse if the raid is alive.

BTW- Mystic/Defilers are beasts on the heal parse only when people are actually taking damage. No damage you damn sure better be doing something besides noob spamming heals and wards. Just saying.