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Old 02-16-2009, 06:36 PM  
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Default Re: This Spell Cannot Be Affected Except By Direct Means

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Empowered Healing
Fury of the Ethernauts
Tribal Rage ( Mythical)
Displacement
Bloodcall
Overloaded Heal

Ancestry Nerfed on all...

I'm not sure what type of blue server Psuedo Mystic would tell me that this is not significant. It is alarming to me when our best AA line is not effecting 1/2 the items it used to. And btw, the number of posts I have on this ghetto ass website has nothing to do with ability/gear ingame. If you wish to validate your previous opinion, name 60 proc items uneffected by the change.
Just 60 items? That's easy.
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Old 02-16-2009, 07:33 PM  
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some of the ones that are now not effected by things like ancestry are good enough i completely understand why, our myth allready proc's 15% of the time which is a large percent along also with overloaded heal its set at 3.6 times a min before it was around 1.8 without ancestry or anything so even with ancestry, dirge luck and templar blessing it wouldn't have got to 3.6 so i dont see why you are complaning. Things like bloodcall is shit for raid gear, i have a piece of it i wear while soloing and dpsing but would it be a proc as a mystic im wearing in raid, hell no.

would i mind if ancestry affected these things? no. Do i think ancestry sucks b/c it dones't? no. It seems to me you just want something to bitch over.
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Old 02-16-2009, 08:57 PM  
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Empowered Healing
Fury of the Ethernauts
Tribal Rage ( Mythical)
Displacement
Bloodcall
Overloaded Heal

Ancestry Nerfed on all...

I'm not sure what type of blue server Psuedo Mystic would tell me that this is not significant. It is alarming to me when our best AA line is not effecting 1/2 the items it used to. And btw, the number of posts I have on this ghetto ass website has nothing to do with ability/gear ingame. If you wish to validate your previous opinion, name 60 proc items uneffected by the change.

Time to prove my point and Prove you are a moron who knows nothing.

60 proc's that ancestry affects:

(1)Greater Void Bane, Void Bane, Runic Barrier, Counterattack,
Greater Goblin Bane, Goblin Bane, Adrenaline Rage, Hateshield,
Greater Vampire Bane

(10)Vampire Bane, Ballad of Dual Thoughts, Blackstone,
Greater Undead Bane, Undead Bane, Marr's Blessing of Renewal, Greater Deepcave Hoodoo,
Aura of Strength( I will skip the other 4 I could use here),
Foresight of the Ankexfen Passive Agressive

(20)Focused Mediation, Mutagenic Burst,
Savage Healing, Act of Survival, Hate's Fate, Fearless, One with Nature,
System Shock, Angelic Entourage, Lesser Healing Wave

(30)Gahdash's Mean Streak,
Thick Bands, Deadly Scorpikis Poison, Enduring Defense, Diminish Thoughts,
Rotting Shield, Dire Consequences, Manaweave, Runic Redemption,
Bane of Slain Pain

(40)Putrid Decay, Precision Strikes, Fearless, Frenzy,
Darkened Celerity, Funeral Pyre, Fury of the Ethernaught Magus, Praetor's Strike,
Long Road to Ruin, Reanimated Flesh, Replenishing Heal

(50)Run for your life,
Resonating Bands, Razor Burn, Malign Intent, Chaotic Happenstance,
Lifespike, Hypnotic Defence, Insomniatic Rage, Rage of Pestilence,
Hamstring Counter

(60)Bladed Fury, Cold Swelter, Consumption


Needless to say this barely scratches the surface of Procs. Then you can count in adornments. Then count in all the spells Ancestry affects.

So you have been proved wrong, you set up a challenge you lost, now go away and don't come back here until you L2P and stop whining.

K thnx buhbye, don't come back anytime soon.
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:00 AM  
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Oh, I was just naming procs offhand.

Seething Hatred
Ayonic Hymn
Havic's Fury
Dispersion
Soothing Mind
Serene Strike
Strike of the Ethernauts

All not affected by Ancestry.

There, now list 67 more.

You know, the reason I made this post was not to argue with you.

Although, Tenacity does yield victory, so keep working hard on that list, and maybe one day one of us will run out of procs to list.

By the way, most of the procs you listed in your response are garbage. All the ones I listed ( minus Bloodcall) are great procs that effect Mystics greatly.

The reason I made this post was to state simply that Ancestry is only single target, and should effect all items because it is so limited compared to other spells of its nature.

I don't know why that idea is so hard to understand, maybe because you are so caught up in trying to "win" the arguement.

Either way I will offer this. I apologize if I upset you or insulted you with the "your gear prob sucks" statement. That was in poor taste.
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Old 02-17-2009, 02:17 AM  
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You made this post to whine and bitch, that was your reason. And I hate whiners.

I'm sure you wish ancestry affected all procs, cuz then it would totally break progression. Ancestry is too powerful to not have a limitation.

Im sure you wish mystics could shoot fire balls out our ass to one shot mobs, and that Dev laser goggles were solo quest reward items but they arent.

Maybe you can make a post about how it sux that we cant wear plate armor.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:38 AM  
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If you wish to validate your previous opinion, name 60 proc items uneffected by the change.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:27 PM  
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Default Re: This Spell Cannot Be Affected Except By Direct Means

Anyone that thinks that Ancestry is meaningless should probably just cancel their account right now. Sure, it doesn't effect overloaded heal procs and the ones from epics, but it does effect ones such as polished marble, the growth symbol, rune etched helm, etc. It also can be thrown on a troubadour or dirge to increase their stoneskin procs, which can come in handy on some harder encounters.
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Well at least you arent being presumptous. I guess since your opinion is the end all be all, then I must be a jackass for not complying. You are probably dumb enough to agree to the ends, merely because you venture no assumption on the consequences of the means.

BTW, you still need to list 67 more procs to support your previous claim.

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Old 02-18-2009, 12:17 AM  
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The point has already been proven and agreed upon, concensus says you are a moron.

My work here is done.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:32 AM  
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Oh, I was just naming procs offhand.

Seething Hatred
Ayonic Hymn
Havic's Fury
Dispersion
Soothing Mind
Serene Strike
Strike of the Ethernauts

All not affected by Ancestry.

There, now list 67 more.

You know, the reason I made this post was not to argue with you.

Although, Tenacity does yield victory, so keep working hard on that list, and maybe one day one of us will run out of procs to list.

By the way, most of the procs you listed in your response are garbage. All the ones I listed ( minus Bloodcall) are great procs that effect Mystics greatly.

The reason I made this post was to state simply that Ancestry is only single target, and should effect all items because it is so limited compared to other spells of its nature.

I don't know why that idea is so hard to understand, maybe because you are so caught up in trying to "win" the arguement.

Either way I will offer this. I apologize if I upset you or insulted you with the "your gear prob sucks" statement. That was in poor taste.


omg you mean some of the already over powered avatar gear is not affected by ancestry !!

not to mention mythicals are already op as is and dont need anything else done with them lol
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