What Needs Fixin (Class Issues) - Page 2

nyquist · 07-09-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by !User!

Oberon - Cross raid, don't be silly! It's already an amazing ability and no doubt the best Mystic ward/heal.
Come again?
I seriously hope this is sarcasm, as per maximum efficiency, this spell will do something like ~1.5k HPS...(being generous 6k max, 3k per 2sec=1.5k/sec)

while this is a nice spell if you utterly suck and cannot obtain the 500HPS it ACTUALLY puts out, it is NOT ALWAYS UP!! (lasts 36 sec and recast is 2.5 min!!!!!!!! making it like 50 HPS over time! omg omg omg rocks so hard don't it?) any necro, pally, sk, even a DIRGE can heal this much!!!! so how the hell can it be the best ward/heal!???!?!? huh? Yeah, chain casting the single target ward is ridiculously better than that shit, not to mention how can you cure/dps/debuff/spot heal while that shit is going on like you're supposed to be?

If you don't use it on a frequent basis:

1) You are wasting power
Sure it saves power, but who the fuck cares when you can regen power by other means? Why waste your fucking power casting this shit to begin with? if you want to save power just sit there with your thumb up your ass and don't cast anything
2) Are dumb
Right back at you. I love how you call us dumb when you declare our MOST SITUATIONAL spell is our best (you know, this shitty one with a 2.5 min recast, doing effectively 500HPS)
Like everyone says, the spell is ~ALMOST~ mediocre if you
1) can anticipate a CC effect coming from the enemy
2) have to take a quick afk
3) are soloing some dumb shit like Terror in SoF (and have bane warding)
4) or MAYBE if you want to absorb half a spike-hit for shits and giggles b/c you feel sorry for this retarded-step-sibbling of stoicism

Since you can't figure this out by yourself, I'll list for you why this ward sucks:

1) You can't debuff when you're using it
2) You can't spot heal
3) You can't cure
4) You can't auto-attack or DPS by other means

Very rarely, but occasionally I will throw this spell up because I feel guilty not casting it, and try and take a single hit with it, then immediately cancel it and start healing for real.

So please before you share your retarded opinion with us and call us stupid next time, think about what you're about to say.

and P.S. Kfizz is right, you're chicken shit being anon and all

KFizzle · 07-09-2009, 02:38 PM

Stay thirsty my friend, indeed!

Kaizer_Sosay · 07-09-2009, 03:15 PM

I cant tell if nyquist like the color red, or if thats his angry color.

But pretty much I only use Oberon when a control effect is inc. Maybe casted it 8 times this xpac.

But I will admit I use the worthless bear often. If there is a break in my cycle I cast him. If he is up its free heals. If he dies oh well.

nyquist · 07-09-2009, 03:27 PM

I just like red, btw :P
Especially when i'm quoting someone, it makes it easier to read imo

and I actually use the Attendant as well, I, again, feel sorry for that spell and want to cast him at least a little bit, since hes a little master I bear running around, why waste him, eh? Though I do NOT cast him for his heals, they are minimal, and if the grp needs to be healed, I will just grp heal or group ward (not to mention kindred restoration does more healing than him :P)

plus I'm usually out of stuff to cast as well in the middle of most fights...

cimtaurus · 07-09-2009, 04:28 PM

Oh yeah, that's right, attendant is a bear....

Been that long since I cast that Fucking Shit of a Spell.

At least Oberon can be hacked into a useful spell in situations because there is what I would consider a by-product of the detrimental effect of the spell. That makes it less of a Fucking Shit of a Spell, but only marginally.

B.E.K.K.A.M. · 07-09-2009, 06:07 PM

SO.... Let's face it. I have recently started playing a Mystic, which completely rocks, but! I am not as seasoned as you guys are so it ma not be quite my place to have an opinion on this topic.

I think that Oberon is pretty good to use and like a couple already said it is nice to avoid control effects (good tip completely didn't think about that) But I think I would like the idea of it being a group spell too. Because I have trouble healing a group and being kind on my power, or recasts and casts (i guess). For someone like me (currently

) removing the stunn would definately let me not suck a little bit more while still being able to group heal and group ward, or maintain debuffs better. I noticed topor can be cast on any raid member but i dont think it is enough of a heal or ward. keep in mind my experience with the class is very little.

THe lunar attendant I use alot. I've never payed attention to how much it does, but by what you guys say, heh, i should remove it from my hotbar and never cast it again! Regenerating group ward from that would be nice even if it was 750 points or so. Would help preserve group wards from that horrible choker damage that I seem to not get around.

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kyrrah · 07-09-2009, 10:10 PM

Guess I'll chime in.

Wiz you rocked that chode in the Sangra thread. Thanks for adding to the epicness.
I was gonna say something to Anon poser but y'all took care of him.
Oberon and the bear aren't even on my hot bars. I might cast oberon if it didn't stun. I might cast the bear if it healed more (ppl range whatev).
Someone PM LFG about Kfizz already!
Doubt anything meaningful will be done. SOE has declared defiler heals >> mystic heals because mystic dps >> defiler dps. It's retarded but I'm pretty sure we agree most of the devs display some level of retard most days.

My prediction after looking into my magic crystal ball

is that they'll up our dps, lower our healing and put damage shields and reactive control effects on all mobs in the next xpac. Wait what?

Ekim · 07-10-2009, 03:39 AM

Think of all the classes that have so much fucked up shit to them. Now look at the mystic. If these two spells are the only thing that folks complain about then that tells you are class isnt really hurting. When folks compare us to defilers I think its kinda funny. I could care less about having these two abilities then letting SOE retinkering the whole class. Let the defilers heal, we can still hang with them even in full dps spec.

One use I have found Oberon rocks on is throwing it up right before Gynoks DT lands tank normally wont even lose health. Just my 2cp

Do have to say though these last few weeks there has been some good info put up here. Keep up the good work!

Verrie77 · 07-10-2009, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ekim

When folks compare us to defilers I think its kinda funny!

Atleast we compare ourselves with our other half..unlike Defilers who usually moan about Templars AND Mystics...or atleast they did moan majorly about mystic when TSO was about to come out and they read about our heal-stance.

So...if the goal is to become similar to INQ then they better give us some other bone. Im supposed to stay ready the whole time incase my MT Defiler-buddy goes down or has to run away...and heal my OT.
INQ's usually dont even have those jobs in a raid, and can easily focus on doing their dps, and heal their group...and easily cure whatever is needed.
Well we cant...thats why I think they need to rethink some abilitys we have.

Kailenn · 07-10-2009, 07:10 AM

Lunar attendant is ridiculous compared to spiritual circle. My angel pets from the Star of Malice do better than that stupid ghost bear, and they're just a proc.

I would make lunar attendant raidwide, massively increase its heal amount and radius, and make it AOE immune.

I don't use Oberon much... It''s a decent ward but it's far too situational, and in most cases stunning yourself is not a good idea. Having it raidwide for MT pulls would be good. It would be extremely nice to remove the stun component, so that we can just have a huge regenerating ward on someone while being able to cast other things... But if they did that, they would probaby also nerf the ward amount. Can you imagine the bitching from the Defilers if we had that sort of thing?

Not that these two faulty spells make us completely incapable of healing. But they are quite silly.

While we are on the subject... Does anyone else find that their ancestral sentry dies extremely quickly, even with 5 AAs in it?