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Old 10-29-2009, 02:27 PM  
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Also, I rarely use Torpor on the MT, or any other melee DPS for that matter. I find its ideal for caster (who aren't effected by the slow to their attack speed) and especially for a Necro who is Life Burning, though we almost never have a Necro in the raids. I've put it up as they cast and never have to heal them again.
I wont lie, i mean the rest of your post made me sad, but this actually made me die a little inside. Sure, why put the stackable, regening ward+heal on the person with the most inc damage. Good point, next time i think i might just put it on that pesky wizard who keeps getting killed in the mage dps group or something.
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Old 10-29-2009, 02:36 PM  
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I wont lie, i mean the rest of your post made me sad, but this actually made me die a little inside. Sure, why put the stackable, regening ward+heal on the person with the most inc damage. Good point, next time i think i might just put it on that pesky wizard who keeps getting killed in the mage dps group or something.

Why slow the MTs auto-attack with Torpor when my single+group ward isn't letting any damage through anyway? I'd rather use it on a ranged/caster who has a choker that's eating away at my other wards because they don't care if their auto-attack is slowed. And I specifically mentioned Necros because trying to heal a Necro through a Life Tap takes up time that I could use to focus on healing the MT.
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Old 10-29-2009, 02:43 PM  
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Oh, and I mainly focus on keeping wards up during the raid and let the druids and clerics focus on actual healing because they have faster and stronger direct/regen/reactive heals. If a mage or scout is pulling agro off the MT in a raid then I usually let them die because they deserve it for not knowing how to play their class in a raid >.< But someone who is doing their job and taking damage from a choker or an AE, toss a heal+ward on them and they're set and I can go back to warding the MT and his group.
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:13 PM  
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You fail if all you do is wards, even in a MT situation.

If you are in a mage group you shouldn't even need a second healer in your group, excluding fights such as Tyranus where it would be a bitch to try and solo cure.

And next time you call out a DPS for pulling agro, shoot yourself in the face please. Memwipe mobs are increasingly more common in this expansion, and any decent tank should be able to hold agro off of a DPS in a raid setup.
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:33 PM  
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You fail if all you do is wards, even in a MT situation.

If you are in a mage group you shouldn't even need a second healer in your group, excluding fights such as Tyranus where it would be a bitch to try and solo cure.

And next time you call out a DPS for pulling agro, shoot yourself in the face please. Memwipe mobs are increasingly more common in this expansion, and any decent tank should be able to hold agro off of a DPS in a raid setup.

First of all, I said I FOCUS on wards, I heal and debuff when I can and all that, but my main focus is keeping my wards up. I would never only use one type of spell for an entire raid, I would never have gotten a consistent spot in raids even being one of the few shamans I know if I did that.

Second, I am rarely in the mage group, thats usually a druid sometimes 2 if needed.

And finally, I know about memwipes and I heal those, but if they are PULLING the agro off the MT (doing loads of damage before the tank has himself situated or attacking mobs before the raid is ready... both of which have nothing to do with a memwipe or taunts or anything like that) or being stupid with their toon I wont heal. I absolutely heal people if they can't help it, that would just be a dick move if I didn't.

Next time, please read my post thoroughly before criticizing it. And if you have issues with the way I play my toon then say something nicely and don't be a dick about it.
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but if they are PULLING the agro off the MT (doing loads of damage before the tank has himself situated or attacking mobs before the raid is ready... both of which have nothing to do with a memwipe or taunts or anything like that) or being stupid with their toon I wont heal.
I knew a guy who did exactly what you are talking about. He would not cure people if he disliked their performance and I can only assume he wasn't aware of it, but it would lead to a lot of our wipes. How do you think he performs when others are actually doing their jobs if he mostly practiced poor play himself when they weren't? Every encounter is an opportunity for you to practice perfect play.

You can either be spiteful, contribute to the failure, fight the same mobs endlessly, and be miserable; or, accept that a lot of people really suck or are completely clueless most of the time, pick up their slack, and make mobs dead. You may still be miserable, but at least the loot flows and your skill soars.
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:08 PM  
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I hear you. I can understand messing up a few time because, really, who doesn't? But someone who consistently does it and doesn't change their play style when its brought up several times by different groups? I rarely stop healing an individual, but when someone pulls agro or does something unnecessary that wipes the raid? I stop healing at that point, I continue to help the raid and work through it.

Honestly, there is only one situation in raid that comes to mind and it was when I was with a group trying to take down Levi. A ranger we had along would continually use CAs and gear that caused Levi's reflect to wipe us. The only reason he was brought along was that he was one of the guild leaders/founders (not the raid leader). In fact, he did a lot of shit and now their guild is failing because the raid leader and many in their raid force left due to his stupidity.
The only grouping situation that comes to mind was a Wizard who would pull agro mid-end of fights off an SK who I play with often and rarely ever losing agro. The Wizzy would pull out all his high damage Nukes to attempt to finish off a mob, but would almost never do so. We told him and he fixed it the next pull, but went right back to it after.

What I have said earlier may have seemed like I do it a lot, or even consistently. Their are very few times I would do this and I'd never compromise a raid out of anger (and trust me, I've been pretty angry at some of the stupid things I've seen in raids).
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:36 PM  
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The fact is if you have an SK that can't hold aggro and a raid wiped due to the ranger debuffing his group your guilds suck ass and it won't matter what you do... people will just bumblefuck into a couple of kills and you'd probably get more gear if you harvested silicate loams for 5 hours a day and bought the shit from guilds selling equipment in lvl chat.
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Old 10-29-2009, 11:39 PM  
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That was me being nice, fuck tard. Learn to play a mystic.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:56 AM  
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and i thought defilers were mean
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