Nagafen - Past to Present

[firamas]

Originally Posted by Gilgame

onyx was splintered at the start of the expansion and in a weakened state.

Originally Posted by Gilgame

onyx doesnt raid that many hours in a night

Originally Posted by Gilgame

onyx is a big guild and we had many more people to flag.

splintered, weakened, casual guild, roster size... all i see are bullshit excuses from you guys. it's a lot of rhetoric thrown up on these boards to try to protect your guild's reputation from being tarnished... you think that by twisting around the facts (or just outright lying) you can save face with the server when things go badly for you. if Onyx accomplishes something, it instantly becomes the most important thing that ever happened on the server; if Kraken accomplishes something, it means nothing. blah blah blah, whatever dude.

"if we say it loudly, and say it often enough, people will think its true" -- that's always been the onyx way

news flash: the only people you're fooling there are random city faction scrubs who don't know any better (and don't matter, in the big picture). =)

Originally Posted by Gilgame

it doesnt really matter now, kraken practically server firsted the entire expansion and are still considered number 2

considered #2 by whom? Onyx? grats on, uh, claiming that you're still #1? tbph, both guilds are essentially neck and neck, and if you think 1 dragon here or there proves anything about the overall strength of a guild, then you have a pretty shallow measure of success. i guess it's easier to keep your spirits up that way though, eh?

Originally Posted by Gilgame

and now you cant even kill nexona 2.0, the first genuinely hard encounter you've been up against.

see above. also, while you're doing that, feel free to explain to me why Silverwing took you an extra 3-4 weeks? if you say "we didn't have the people flagged" one more time, without explaining why running one extra instance of a 5-day lockout flag-mob translated into so much extra strife, you can officially gtfo.

either way, it's 1 mob, and it doesn't prove anything. Onyx's failures on Silverwing can be traced to a lot of poor leadership decisions, but that doesn't mean Onyx sucks overall. Kraken's struggle with Nexona can be traced (sigh... I didn't want to start giving actual reasons lest they be deemed "excuses", but oh well) to a severe lack of bards and enchanters... which we've now fixed. and we have the strat down just fine, it's just a matter of not having the tank get 1 shotted at a hectic point in the fight.

Originally Posted by Hael

Garras is a good guy, and a fairly good raid leader, but you're retarded if you think our success depends on one person.

and you guys are retarded if you still keep clinging to the excuse that NPU had anything to do with Kraken's kills in T8. i was there for every single encounter we struggled to learn, we took pulls on each one until we figured everything out and refined the strats, then executed the strat. nothing before this point in the expansion has been challenging in the least bit (with the exception of maybe Silverwing, which we had figured out the first night we were in there but couldn't get the execution down without some more pulls on it.)

srsly, find yourselves some new mantra to chant when you insult us. i'd rather discuss valid points instead of dealing with a bunch of deflection and misdirection. wading through the sea of bullshit that spews forth from most Onyx members is tiresome.

Originally Posted by Gilgame

but like i said above, it really doesnt fuckin matter at this point, nexona isnt dead and kraken members are dropping like flies.

dropping like flies? huh what? who? where?

...or, as in interesting side note, should we bring up the fact that Nightmares (aka, the former guild leader of Onyx in Boon's absence) couldn't deal with all the internal bullshit in Onyx, finally gave up on trying to lead you grabbastic morons, and joined Kraken recently... only to grudgingly give up and go back to Onyx, after your members pleaded with him to come back, because his old guild was so close to falling apart in the leadership vacuum that existed that he couldn't bear to watch it happen and lose so much of his personal investment. Nightmares, we talked for awhile in vent and you definitely seem like a down to earth dude, and I wish you well in any of your future endeavours, but leading that guild is a heavy burden for anyone to bear and I'm actually kind of interested to see if you can turn them around. best of luck. =)

[Narkle]

All I see is exactly what I said I would see from finks and become when we told them we killed it...Asshurt and posting books

[Pudaan]

I liked DoM because 90% of the members they had were actual retards.

Usually most guilds run around with 30% retards =/

[Horknut]

Originally Posted by Edavi

I saw a Pohodari PVP group! I was on early in the day, they were all champs and dreads so they must go out at least a little bit... I think they just play early morning when were at work, they are in a diff time zone

I saw Edavi zerg once. The forge in Willow Wood one shotted him, and he revived and ran right back in to finish crafting his [Mangled Tin Sparring Swizzlestick].

[Pett]

I'm waiting for the RL threats from Seuseo. Right now, I'm glad Kraken's been sitting him out of raids, so Sinful can get the mythical before him.

Then there's Sinful, who gets so paranoid of AARP that she reports everybody who says it in exile chat.

[Waking]

I'd just like to point out a few things. I've been reading this thread the whole time and declined to reply until now Waiting for dinner to be finished.

First, It's obvious you all care about something or you wouldn't be posting here. Time is the currency, and you're spending it. So am I. Either you care about your reputation, or your guilds, or you care about other people's reputation or their guild's. But we care.

And I personally think the reason people care is because they want to accomplish something. But as was pointed out multiple times... it's a game. It's electrons floating around to form an imaginary world. And even if you were accomplishing something the benefit would be entirely yours... very few people care what you accomplish unless they can live vicariously through you.

So the best guild, in my opinion, is the one that has the most fun and cares the least about what other people think. People have fun a lot of different ways, and if pwning on the forums is your way of having fun so be it. But please don't get the impression that it matters.

What will matter, however, is the effect of your behavior. People will remember some guild names, but they are more likely to remember your individual merits above that of your guild. If you're a moron on the forums, people will remember it. If you're a moron in game people will remember it.

So someday, in game, or in the next game, someone will remember that you are a moron who runs his mouth on the forums, or they may remember that you are the person who had the most fun and cared little what others thought.

This note from Dr. Phil is over, please commence fun however you derive it

[Narkle]

She is hoping her Mythical procs "Fountain of Youth" Pett...And so is Davram

[Jubilee]

Originally Posted by Narkle

lol this server is getting more and more like a true FFA server everyday

And if you left Haven it would be even more like an FFA server!

[Bitmap]

Originally Posted by LFG

This just in:

Reinkaos is calling ME old, and he turns out to be some 37 year old failure from the outskirts of Columbus Ohio.

http://www.eq2flames.com/rate-retard...tml#post479768

well lets hear it for Mr Midlife crisis all dolled up in his eyeliner living in Columbus that midwestern mecca of goth culture...

[Narkle]

Originally Posted by Jubilee

And if you left Haven it would be even more like an FFA server!

By the time I get home from the bar I just die over and over