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Geniusz · 03-06-2008, 04:18 AM

symbols might need a change if procs are gash now
plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz sony add a symbol or two to raidzones, another tier of instance loot being best in the symbol slot is annoying -_-

Virulence · 03-06-2008, 02:03 PM

Sorry, is Exquisitely Wrought Clasp even a necro item? I couldnt see a necro getting this...ever..obviously a bard item. Dump this from the list please.

PS-Also Nagol's Treasure (heroic content ftw) is basically identical to Negative Energy Channeler. NEC is listed as no1, Nagol's is not even listed.

Virulence · 03-06-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Geniusz

Sab

You put nightblack hood with 5% casting reduction at the bottom of that pile under the 3crit helmets

Yet you put negative energy channeller at the top of the ring pile above ring with 3crit 70 spell damage

You also havent included Nagols Treasure which is essentially the same ring with a little less HP and INT

any explanation for these choices?

yeah I agree, list needs some fine tuning and clear reasoning why some stuff is at the top of the list in one slot and the bottom or even deleted in another even though the effects are IDENTICAL.

Negative Energy Channeler is not the no1 ring by a long shot, Im sorry.

We need to figure out how as a necro community raiding we value spell casting haste.

Would also move to completely strike Frigid Piercer from the list, there is pretty much no reason whatsoever anyone should have that item equipped now since if you are in FP drop territory you should have your epic. It is transmute fodder which IMO doesnt warrant mention. Primary slot itemization is fairly simple: If you dont have Vazelle the Mad, you should have Insanity's Rapture. If you dont have Insanity because you are a lazy son of a bitch, then you should have Wand of Crystallized Plasma assuming you dont have Orb of the Dark Mind equipped, which is a valid assumption because if you have OfDM then you likely arent the lazy SOB without at least the fabled version of the epic.

1. Vazelle
2. Insanity
3. WoCP and be done with it, the other mentions are needless.

Would also ? 2% base dmg increase vs. 10% reuse reduction (tailored cloak vs. Unrest)...I dont have the numbers, but I question why 2% base increase is definitively better than that massive reuse reduction.

Pinski · 03-06-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Virulence

Sorry, is Exquisitely Wrought Clasp even a necro item? I couldnt see a necro getting this...ever..obviously a bard item. Dump this from the list please.

PS-Also Nagol's Treasure (heroic content ftw) is basically identical to Negative Energy Channeler. NEC is listed as no1, Nagol's is not even listed.

Is 4% Spell Crit and 50 Spell Damage better than what else you can get in that slot? What's that, that's a Yes it is? Oh, well uhm, woopsy!

Virulence · 03-06-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

Is 4% Spell Crit and 50 Spell Damage better than what else you can get in that slot? What's that, that's a Yes it is? Oh, well uhm, woopsy!

LMAO you timeless faggot...that isnt the point. The item isnt a best fit for necros regardless of the 4crit/50spell damage as it AE group buffs MELEE (unless I am reading that wrong...melee "double attack" as in not "spell double attack")..and LOL thats only marginally better than Tormented, a SOLOABLE mob.

You actually play this game or just stir shit up?

Pinski · 03-06-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Virulence

LMAO you timeless faggot...that isnt the point. The item isnt a best fit for necros regardless of the 4crit/50spell damage as it AE group buffs MELEE..and LOL thats only marginally better than Tormented, a SOLOABLE mob.

You actually play this game or just stir shit up?

This list isn't about what item is better for who, it's about what is the best item period for a Necro. Last I checked, 4SC 50SD > 4SC 17SD. Whether or not it is better for a Bard isn't part of the question. It's about how good it is for a Necro.

Obviously it should go to a bard or an enchanter in a melee group first, but it's still a good item for a Necro.

Virulence · 03-06-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinski

This list isn't about what item is better for who, it's about what is the best item period for a Necro. Last I checked, 4SC 50SD > 4SC 17SD. Whether or not it is better for a Bard isn't part of the question. It's about how good it is for a Necro.

Obviously it should go to a bard or an enchanter in a melee group first, but it's still a good item for a Necro.

you are arguing over +33 spell damage...AVATAR vs. mob I solo'd at level 76 buhahahaha....if this item ever goes to a necro he/she should be taken out back behind the barn and shot.

yes it is a good item for a necro, no it doesnt belong on this list.

Sciomar · 03-06-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Virulence

LMAO you timeless faggot...that isnt the point. The item isnt a best fit for necros regardless of the 4crit/50spell damage as it AE group buffs MELEE (unless I am reading that wrong...melee "double attack" as in not "spell double attack")..and LOL thats only marginally better than Tormented, a SOLOABLE mob.

You actually play this game or just stir shit up?

These lists are done out of kindness, not because they have to, if you don't like what's on it and where do you think you really have to abide by what it says? No, so make your own list and run off that...hell post it here so we can critique it. Alot of the gear choices was placed where it was due to more than just crit/spell dmg, was also taking into account hp since lifeburn (if you have healers worth a shit) makes up a huge part of personal dps.

Pinski · 03-06-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Virulence

you are arguing over +33 spell damage...AVATAR vs. mob I solo'd at level 76 buhahahaha....if this item ever goes to a necro he/she should be taken out back behind the barn and shot.

yes it is a good item for a necro, no it doesnt belong on this list.

So what if all your bards and enchanters have the item? Who the fuck else is gonna take it? Oh, uhm, we'll let it get transmuted or given to a useless alt! Yah....

Sciomar · 03-06-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Virulence

you are arguing over +33 spell damage...AVATAR vs. mob I solo'd at level 76 buhahahaha....if this item ever goes to a necro he/she should be taken out back behind the barn and shot.

yes it is a good item for a necro, no it doesnt belong on this list.

Also last time I checked I am a class that casts fast as hell and get placed in melee groups...more often than I like now a days...fucking sorcerers, so I'm pretty sure scouts would love me having this item. So if one happens to drop after our bards have one...fucking A I'd be dumb to not bid on it. Upgrade is an upgrade and the proc gives some added "utility" that some crave.